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Re:NYC subway and bus services have entered 'death spiral', ... by codyb on Tuesday November 20, 2018 @11:23AM (#18495024)
That really hurts most a lot of poor people who work odd hours.

Then suddenly they have to find a way home or two work that will be much more expensive and eat into their earnings.

I'm not sure what the solution is, but "that's really all there is to it" will affect very negatively hundreds of thousands of people in NYC.

Re:NYC subway and bus services have entered 'death spiral', ... by mlrtime on Tuesday November 20, 2018 @04:00PM (#18497657)
Night buses like London, they are much more efficient when there is less traffic.
Re:NYC subway and bus services have entered 'death spiral', ... by taobility on Tuesday November 20, 2018 @02:09PM (#18496702)
To serve much better for 99.9% commuters or serve poorly for 100% commuters, isn't that a easier decision?
Re:NYC subway and bus services have entered 'death spiral', ... by natestemen on Tuesday November 20, 2018 @03:46PM (#18497546)
i dont think it's really that simple. even it was i don't think the decision is that easy anyway.

it's important to think about who your decisions affect, even if they may be a minority (which is bigger than 0.1%). why is it okay to put more burden on the people who already have the most burden as it is?

Re:NYC subway and bus services have entered 'death spiral', ... by taobility on Thursday November 22, 2018 @01:10PM (#18511484)
NYC is the only city which has such requirement and have to provide subway to support them? How many other cities provide same 24/7 subway transit? why the other cities don't provide such service? The other cities don't have people work so late? How does those people commute?
Re:NYC subway and bus services have entered 'death spiral', ... by xxpor on Tuesday November 20, 2018 @04:27PM (#18497927)
This is why other cities have shitty transit. Commutes can't be looked at as the only purpose of a transit system. Especially in NY, it's the PRIMARY mode of transportation for a lot of people. Making it shitty outside of commute hours is not an option.
Re:NYC subway and bus services have entered 'death spiral', ... by taobility on Thursday November 22, 2018 @01:06PM (#18511456)
"This is why other cities have shitty transit."?? If NYC continue with current shitty schedule, the subway would be worse and worse, which means less and less commuters will rely on it, and eventually it will be closed as worthless. Will you be happier? As at that time, nobody will benefit. Be more practical, gentleman! We are living in 2018, there is lot of proving that we should optimize a system by reducing the bottleneck. For those 0.1% commuters, they don't nee the whole subway system to support them, they can take bus/shuttle or even uber, which will save millions of dollars for the whole system, and also improve the rush hour transit much much better.
Re:NYC subway and bus services have entered 'death spiral', ... by asah on Tuesday November 20, 2018 @03:52PM (#18497590)
subsidized ridesharing?
Re:NYC subway and bus services have entered 'death spiral', ... by paulie_a on Tuesday November 20, 2018 @05:42PM (#18498536)
In some areas you can use commuter benefits with Uber and I think Lyft was implementing that also.
Re:NYC subway and bus services have entered 'death spiral', ... by dbmyh on Tuesday November 20, 2018 @04:44PM (#18498056)
They can take the bus. Don't you have night buses?
Re:NYC subway and bus services have entered 'death spiral', ... by JohnTHaller on Tuesday November 20, 2018 @09:43PM (#18499804)
Most bus routes in NYC only run once an hour between midnight and 5am on weekdays. Many don't run at all on the weekends between midnight and 5am.