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Re:Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10 by mav3rick on Friday November 16, 2018 @12:41PM (#18470320)
The money you would likely pay would be less than what they can make by selling you ads (as a whole). If you were willing to pay > $1000 for software and services there was no reason for companies to maintain an Ad business.
Re:Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10 by aikah on Friday November 16, 2018 @12:57PM (#18470485)
> The money you would likely pay would be less than what they can make by selling you ads (as a whole). If you were willing to pay > $1000 for software and services there was no reason for companies to maintain an Ad business.

So people used the same argument with games and loot boxes. But even if videogames cost $500 a copy, there is so much money to be made with loot boxes that they would still exist in these games at that price.

Re:Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10 by reaperducer on Friday November 16, 2018 @01:18PM (#18470676)
If you were willing to pay > $1000 for software and services there was no reason for companies to maintain an Ad business.

I don't think this is true, but if it is, please provide a link to prove the assertion.

I doubt that companies are selling software at a loss with the intent to make it up in ad revenue. They're selling the software at a profit, and then getting ad revenue for additional profit.

All this just to "maximize revenue potential" for a bunch of faceless investment funds.

Re:Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10 by autoexec on Friday November 16, 2018 @03:54PM (#18471884)
> . If you were willing to pay > $1000 for software and services there was no reason for companies to maintain an Ad business.

Let's be honest though, if a company can make money doing something they most likely will do it. It wouldn't matter if you paid $100,000 a month to use windows, if they could make an extra $1000 selling your personal information and pushing ads at you they will.

Re:Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10 by ovao on Friday November 16, 2018 @04:27PM (#18472114)
If that were truly the case, wouldn’t Apple and Canonical be doing exactly that?
Re:Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10 by dsego on Friday November 16, 2018 @05:16PM (#18472394)
Except Canonical was doing exactly that with amazon ads in the launcher.
Re:Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10 by autoexec on Friday November 16, 2018 @05:22PM (#18472437)
Ubuntu did infest their OS with ads (via amazon). Last I checked they still did but backlash caused them to disable it by default. I can't speak to apple's data collection and ad practices but I'm guessing they've been doing some form of both.
Re:Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10 by yebyen on Friday November 16, 2018 @12:46PM (#18470388)
Is that really true? I feel like they would need _everyone_ to be willing to pay that much, and on a recurring basis somehow to make support sustainable.

The value of marketing to Windows users is in the network effect. If one Windows user can pay $1000 to avoid advertising and change nothing else, the other users will probably hear about this and take notice. But if every Windows user is subjected to ads, I very much doubt that Microsoft is making $1000 in advertising revenue from just one person.

Microsoft would never convert 100% of users to "ad-free" paid subscriptions, at any price. But they can make money directly from advertising to 100% of their users, and there is no "loss" except from attrition (which I would guess is still probably quite a bit smaller than their numbers for overall user-base growth.)

Re:Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10 by tracker1 on Friday November 16, 2018 @05:59PM (#18472644)
Yeah... like the car dealers that just sold you a $50K car don't also try to get you to use them for your oil changes.
Re:Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10 by anoncake on Friday November 16, 2018 @02:01PM (#18471070)
There is plenty of reason to advertise to someone willing and able to spend >$1000 on software.
Re:Microsoft Is Putting Ads on the Mail App in Windows 10 by lowercased on Saturday November 17, 2018 @02:15AM (#18474418)
maybe they could compare my purchase history from various services along with the ads they've served, and at some point realize that I've never bought anything from an ad, nor ever bought anything, ever, that's been promoted through these ads, then finally stop showing them to me. It would be better experience for me, and also make their clickrate ratios go up for their advertisers.