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Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by peterlk on Thursday November 15, 2018 @12:08PM (#18461045)
Also, if you use facebook, stop. I haven't used facebook in years, and I feel pretty fine. I still have friends; we hang out; we show each other pictures. And, best of all, our communication isn't being injected with ads meant to distract us from communicating with each other. Texting, email, slack, whatsapp (yes, I know), signal, discord, and gchat work pretty well. If you're a user of FB, stop, and their power over you and your friends will begin to evaporate (if that's something you're concerned about)
Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by ravenstine on Thursday November 15, 2018 @12:38PM (#18461367)
> whatsapp (yes, I know)

Hold on a sec... what do you mean by this?

How is using WhatsApp or Instagram not essentially the same thing as continuing to use Facebook?

Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by snazz on Thursday November 15, 2018 @12:45PM (#18461425)
I’m not sure why aside from the fact that end-to-end encryption should make it harder (impossible in theory) for them to read your messages. They still have access to your contacts book, which is kinda scary since some people I know keep Social Security numbers in their contacts.
Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by mayniac on Thursday November 15, 2018 @02:29PM (#18462427)
They don't have to be able to read your messages server-side to pick out keywords client-side and send those unencrypted.

It would still be truthful: all messages are encrypted e2e, but the app on your device parses decrypted messages to "deliver relevant ads".

Also:

>kinda scary since some people I know keep Social Security numbers in their contacts.

That is absolutely terrifying.

Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by ravenstine on Thursday November 15, 2018 @02:46PM (#18462608)
> some people I know keep Social Security numbers in their contacts

That's now how this works. That's not how any of this works!

Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by mayankkaizen on Thursday November 15, 2018 @12:50PM (#18461475)
He knows.

I too have deleted FB account long ago but I use Whatsapp. I realize it is much harder to quit Whatsapp than Facebook because I really 'need' whatsapp. But as of now I don't see any strong reason to quit Whatsapp because Facebook isn't using it to show ads in creepy ways.

If only I could persuade my family members and few friends to ditch Whatsapp...

Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by reitanqild on Thursday November 15, 2018 @12:57PM (#18461539)
I've been part of moving several hundred people away from WhatsApp so it's definitely doable. (My family was the worst. They're possibly more stubborn than me.)
Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by mrgreenfur on Thursday November 15, 2018 @02:33PM (#18462475)
Where did you move them? I moved a few to Signal, but most complain that their friends aren't on there and the quality isn't quite as good.
Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by reitanqild on Saturday November 17, 2018 @02:40PM (#18476993)
Telegram. Maybe I'd chosen something else today but it has served us very well.
Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by nafey on Thursday November 15, 2018 @01:46PM (#18462021)
But is it though? WhatsApp is an inherently less monetizable platform due to e2e encryption. If all of the people who use Facebook completely switch to WhatsApp the revenue of FB will plummet.
Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by baq on Thursday November 15, 2018 @02:20PM (#18462332)
E2E but both ends are Facebook...
Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by nafey on Thursday November 15, 2018 @02:54PM (#18462714)
How? Isn't it encrypted from the senders device and decrypted at the receivers?
Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by dogma1138 on Thursday November 15, 2018 @10:10PM (#18466025)
Which both run an app made by Facebook.
Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by bond on Thursday November 15, 2018 @12:43PM (#18461405)
The name is different... ;)
Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by CaptainZapp on Thursday November 15, 2018 @12:17PM (#18461150)
Seconded! I "deleted" my account some 5 years ago.

Just to add: I also don't use Whatsapp.

I refuse to touch any property, which is connected in any way with this evil, slimy carbuncle of a company. No matter if I'm slightly inconvenienced in the process.

Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by jvagner on Thursday November 15, 2018 @01:02PM (#18461598)
I posted to my facebook yesterday that I'm deleting my account today. I can be reached in other ways... but yes, with this week's news, my own personal inclination to maintain my FB account has evaporated.
Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by type0 on Thursday November 15, 2018 @01:42PM (#18461991)
The bigger impact would be to convince everyone you can to stop spending money on their ads, but I have to say it's not easy to do because marketing managers are usually convinced that fb is the web 3.0
Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by KozmoNau7 on Thursday November 15, 2018 @04:05PM (#18463310)
>"Also, if you use facebook, stop."

It sounds so easy, but unfortunately it's not feasible in a lot of cases. As an example, my entire social group organizes just about everything through Facebook events.

Monthly music quiz, including signup and updates about subjects and prizes, Christmas/Easter/others lunchs, pre-concert meetups, festival line-up "study group", and all the other various get-togethers. All discussion about these subjects happens in FB groups.

FB Messenger is the IM platform here in Denmark. WhatsApp is a very distant second.

Quitting FB cold turkey would cut me off from a lot of social interaction. Not with my closest friends of course, but with everyone else. And all of my closest friends use FB Messenger exclusively. I've tried getting people to adopt Signal or Slack or just something other than FB, but so far haven't had any success. There's too much friction, and FB has the userbase and appropriate lineup of features.

Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by nbar1 on Thursday November 15, 2018 @12:28PM (#18461254)
I feel like at this point, anyone using Facebook still is using it because of their addiction or for business purposes.
Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by blacksmith_tb on Thursday November 15, 2018 @12:32PM (#18461299)
I see it as much more like Linkedin - I have to maintain a presence to communicate with a few people, but I don't spend my free time there.
Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by lostlogin on Thursday November 15, 2018 @12:48PM (#18461455)
When your product is compared to Linkedin, you’ve gone way off piste.
Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by flatline on Thursday November 15, 2018 @12:35PM (#18461325)
I occasionally share kid pics with relatives, and keep in touch with the martial arts school I attend. It's a perfectly fine tool for me, but I see how everyone else uses it and it makes me feel slightly sick each time I open it up.
Re:Facebook reportedly discredited critics by linking them t... by wild_preference on Thursday November 15, 2018 @02:29PM (#18462425)
Or because it's still one of the best ways to keep in touch with people, like all the people I'm not close enough with to call (so, almost everyone).