Re:Show HN: Group video chat with no signups or downloads
by tendencydriven on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @05:01AM
(#18448754)
This is a great project, and really quite useful. Any way to support desktop sharing, or is that out of scope (as you'd most likely require a plugin, like Appear.in and such).
Thank you for releasing the source code as well, I've been wanting to learn more about WebRTC and it looks remarkably simple to get started with!
Re:Show HN: Group video chat with no signups or downloads
by vasanthv on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @05:41AM
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Yes currently desktop sharing is only available in Chrome. I am planning to enable it only for the supported browsers soon, as I don't want anyone to download a plugin for this purpose.
Re:Show HN: Group video chat with no signups or downloads
by SamWhited on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @09:31AM
(#18450046)
Doesn't work at all for me. On Firefox I allow camera and mic and just get a black screen, on Chromium it doesn't even ask for camera and mic permissions, but even if I manually enable them it gives me a popup saying that it requires access to them (that same popup never showed up on firefox before I had enabled them, but I didn't outright reject it either, so maybe it just doesn't show until it thinks it asked and I didn't notice it).
Nothing on the console, but I know nothing about front end web development so I'm afraid I probably can't provide a useful bug report.
Re:Show HN: Group video chat with no signups or downloads
by hamslamwich on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @11:29AM
(#18451083)
Similar user experience comment from me: for whatever settings i have on Chrome, all i get when entering is a black screen and a popup that says "This site will not work without microphone/camera access". Not a deal-breaker, but definitely could be a friendlier/welcoming experience
Re:Show HN: Group video chat with no signups or downloads
by wingerlang on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @11:57PM
(#18456955)
I am video chatting a lot, and for some reason desktop-to-desktop in FB Messenger always struggle (mobile is fine usually). This worked instantly, nice.
Although I did notice my internet got cut off twice, usually this happens when I download torrents. Could the P2P of this be the reason for this?
Re:Show HN: Group video chat with no signups or downloads
by sabbakeynejad on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @10:54AM
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Really nice! Might be a good idea to think a little bit about how to communicate your brand.
Many users will have no idea if they ever used your product or not. You should use the network effect of group calls to advertise your product. Maybe just stick your logo in the top right corner?
Re:Show HN: Group video chat with no signups or downloads
by vidanay on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @08:04AM
(#18449518)
Does it traverse corporate firewalls? I use appear.in a lot, but all users must be either inside the firewall (VPN works) or outside the firewall, there cannot be a mix.
Re:Show HN: Group video chat with no signups or downloads
by j1elo on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @07:34PM
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appear.in went login-only very recently, and they only allow for a single room name, which is a pain in the *
(although it's free so I can't complain...)
I'm using talky.io more since the change. Works pretty well, and they allow to start the call with audio only, which is something appear doesn't do.
Re:Show HN: Group video chat with no signups or downloads
by hardwaresofton on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @09:22PM
(#18456345)
Ahhh -- yeah, I didn't blame them too much, since of course they need to monetize somehow or maybe even were being crushed under the server load (giving bad service even for free might piss off people or invite bad press).
In the end a bunch of these companies are really just using WebRTC under the covers + some improvements/management on their side, so they should be avoiding most of the load (especially since most of them say they can't support >4 people in a room or whatever since that's the traditional limitation of truly p2p webrtc implementations).
thanks for the pointer to talky.io, I also took note of some of the other suggestions in this thread, will be using them as well.
Re:Show HN: Group video chat with no signups or downloads
by vasanthv on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @10:40AM
(#18450655)
Running is cost is negligible.
- Paying for the domain (19$/yr).
- Using Zeit now's free plan for hosting.
- Very low load on the server as it is P2P.
- No database.
Re:Show HN: Group video chat with no signups or downloads
by buwka on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @10:41AM
(#18450665)
Vasanthv put it on GitHub as open source so I don't think they have much of an intent of monetizing the service. I think the lasting impact is that it allows others to easily set up video chat on their own servers.
Thank you for releasing the source code as well, I've been wanting to learn more about WebRTC and it looks remarkably simple to get started with!
Nothing on the console, but I know nothing about front end web development so I'm afraid I probably can't provide a useful bug report.
Although I did notice my internet got cut off twice, usually this happens when I download torrents. Could the P2P of this be the reason for this?
Many users will have no idea if they ever used your product or not. You should use the network effect of group calls to advertise your product. Maybe just stick your logo in the top right corner?
jitsi meet still has free anon rooms though
I'm using talky.io more since the change. Works pretty well, and they allow to start the call with audio only, which is something appear doesn't do.
In the end a bunch of these companies are really just using WebRTC under the covers + some improvements/management on their side, so they should be avoiding most of the load (especially since most of them say they can't support >4 people in a room or whatever since that's the traditional limitation of truly p2p webrtc implementations).
thanks for the pointer to talky.io, I also took note of some of the other suggestions in this thread, will be using them as well.
Is it possible to record and capture the video?
Guess I can run it for free. :)
Code is available here - https://github.com/tom-james-watson/p2p.chat/
(Warning - definitely pretty alpha still)