Re:Destruction of evidence charges filed for remotely wiping...
by onetimemanytime on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @12:57AM
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So you've updated it 45 times and the time you "forgot" to update coincided with the time you got the secret order?
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Re:Destruction of evidence charges filed for remotely wiping...
by sudhirj on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @01:03AM
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Isn’t there a free speech aspect to canaries? Can the court force someone to publicly tell an explicit lie?
Re:Destruction of evidence charges filed for remotely wiping...
by zaarn on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @05:45AM
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A NSL or similar already prevents you from saying something and limits your free speech.
The court will, either way, not be impressed by someone communicating that they got a warrant by not communicating in a previously arranged manner (this is basically communicating in a code language).
Re:Destruction of evidence charges filed for remotely wiping...
by martin1975 on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @01:15AM
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only if you're covert working for 3 lettered agencies can you lie and get away with it. Though they'd get you out some other way to avoid blowing your cover.
Re:Destruction of evidence charges filed for remotely wiping...
by onetimemanytime on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @03:51AM
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I would argue that you brought yourself in this mess. The only valid reason for having a canary is to evade the requirements of the law, so you can't complain.
It's an argument, I'm no fan of secret orders or the government telling you to lie or keep quiet.
Re:Destruction of evidence charges filed for remotely wiping...
by Dylan16807 on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @07:38AM
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Fundamental rights generally override "you got yourself into this mess", don't they?
Re:Destruction of evidence charges filed for remotely wiping...
by danso on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @10:10AM
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Fundamental rights can be in conflict with each other. It's not uncommon for a judge to impose gag orders, which ostensibly protects a fair trial, but infringes on a person's rights to talk about a case in public.