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Re:Internet Vulnerability Takes Down Google by Aic1kuir on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @07:56AM (#18440564)
These routes can spill over many different paths. There is no central authority that would be able to drop them from the whole internet. Even if one Tier 1 ISP dropped them then their routes would just flow through another one. And good luck getting all of them to agree on that unless there's some massive, persistent abuse.
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Re:Internet Vulnerability Takes Down Google by apathy on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @08:20AM (#18440701)
China and Nigeria are the types of state actors that might provide that sort of persistent abuse.

Two billion people living in an autocracy ... if Google still believed in Don’t Be Evil, this would not be acceptable.

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Re:Internet Vulnerability Takes Down Google by manigandham on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @08:28AM (#18440741)
That’s just a corporate motto, not an actual belief. It was, is, and always be a meaningless PR phrase as empty as any other.

It just goes to show the power of branding and how much people attach to it.

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Re:Internet Vulnerability Takes Down Google by apathy on Monday November 26, 2018 @07:52AM (#18532946)
It wasn’t always that way. There were people (especially in operations) that used it as a guide for certain decisions. I was disappointed when the slogan was retired.
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Re:Internet Vulnerability Takes Down Google by eloff on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @09:01AM (#18440954)
I think a lot of people at Google do take that seriously. Don't be so cynical.
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Re:Internet Vulnerability Takes Down Google by manigandham on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @01:54PM (#18443661)
Most people aren't evil, so that's not really special. Taking the statement seriously is the power of branding at work designed to drive employees.
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Re:Internet Vulnerability Takes Down Google by berbec on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @11:49AM (#18442423)
On one hand, many people at Google do take it seriously. On the other hand, there are the people making decisions.
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Re:Internet Vulnerability Takes Down Google by mariojv on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @09:12AM (#18441030)
I don't think Google has control over peering agreements. The way I understand it, ISPs/backbone providers would have to decide to drop peers from their BGP configs. Outside of calling up ISPs, I'm not sure what Google should have done differently, if anything.

edit/minor correction: I guess they'd have control over peering agreements for initial hops for Google Fiber users, but that wouldn't have resolved the issue in this case, either, unless they stopped peering with other huge providers like NTT. Even then, it'd only help their subscribers.

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Re:Internet Vulnerability Takes Down Google by true_religion on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @08:55AM (#18440902)
Is it really going that far out on a limb to say that sharing the internet with China does not you “evil”?
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Re:Internet Vulnerability Takes Down Google by yourbandsucks on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @08:29AM (#18440749)
What's unacceptable? Peering with Chinese networks?
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