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Re:F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes by docbrown on Friday November 09, 2018 @10:19PM (#18419730)
For those of us without a NYT account, one part I found interesting from the WSJ report on the topic was their carefulness regarding pulling the trigger prematurely. While the FDA is trying to decrease the attractiveness of menthol, they’re strategically playing a sympathetic long term game with smokers.

As they and everyone knows, quiting smoking is a difficult task and suddenly prohibiting many peoples go-to fix would be cruel and possibly cause more harm than good.

>FDA officials—who want to curb use among youth while still encouraging adult cigarette smokers to switch to less harmful products like e-cigarettes—decided not to restrict sales of mint and menthol e-cigarettes because they didn’t want to create a situation in which cigarettes were more attractive to smokers who prefer menthol, senior agency officials said. [1]

[1]: https://www.wsj.com/articles/fda-to-propose-ban-of-menthol-c...

Re:F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes by udp on Saturday November 10, 2018 @07:50AM (#18421125)
Nothing strategic there. It would be bizarre and unprecedented to ban any e-cigarette flavour. There are thousands, and there’s nothing special about menthol.
Re:F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes by dpark on Saturday November 10, 2018 @09:35AM (#18421450)
Nothing unprecedented about it. Most traditional cigarette flavors are banned, since 2009.
Re:F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes by 1stcity3rdcoast on Saturday November 10, 2018 @09:53AM (#18421513)
Re:F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes by stevedt on Sunday November 11, 2018 @10:58AM (#18426973)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menthol

FTA: Menthol has local anesthetic and counterirritant qualities, and it is widely used to relieve minor throat irritation.

This makes it easier to get new smokers going without the coughing / throat irritation.

Re:F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes by tinus_hn on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:00AM (#18421538)
Quitting smoking is pretty easy, all you need to do is whatever you were doing already, except smoking cigarettes. Not allowing people to smoke is not cruel and not harmful. In fact, allowing people to smoke is cruel and harmful. The only debatable part is if people should be allowed to harm themselves by smoking.
Re:F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes by pnloyd on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:17AM (#18421616)
Hesitant to reply because your comment seems borderline trolling to me. But as someone who quit smoking after a many years habbit Ive personally never done anything harder.
Re:F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes by tinus_hn on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:45AM (#18421763)
So do you think you would have been harmed if actions had been taken to prevent you from starting in the first place? Do you think you’re harming yourself or being cruel to yourself now by not smoking anymore?
Re:F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes by pnloyd on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:54AM (#18421815)
Perhaps not but that point of view is a dramatic over simplification of the situation. I used nicotine as a cruch while dealing with mental health issues. Part of the time I was smoking I really did _need_ it. Taking it away from me then would have been cruel.
Re:F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes by stevewillows on Sunday November 11, 2018 @07:51AM (#18426145)
I quit tobacco and moved to vaping, and it still took me about six months to totally quit. Once I did, my body decided to punish me.

It started with crazy canker sores all over my tongue and a few pimples. The timelines I read were fairly accurate (e.g. tastebuds coming back, etc), but the biggest struggle was breaking the pattern.

Vaping just wasn't the same from the ritual side, but I'm glad I quit tobacco itself. Unlike many, I have no plans to quit nicotine. For me it takes the edge off -- and I think a lot of people with depression and anxiety are in the same boat.

People who haven't quit smoking will never understand what its like to quit smoking -- but the same goes for any addiction.

Re:F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Saturday November 10, 2018 @11:35AM (#18422053)
I've never personally had a problem with smoking, but I am a food addict so I know what addiction feels like. It seems easy to deal with in concept only because you've vastly oversimplified the mechanisms involved.

As with most things, saying is significantly easier than doing.

Re:F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes by EpicEng on Saturday November 10, 2018 @11:09AM (#18421890)
Hey you solved addiction, bravo.
Re:F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes by tinus_hn on Saturday November 10, 2018 @11:29AM (#18422011)
Well, many addictions have withdrawal effects that are serious or even life threatening. Nicotine withdrawal effects are mild discomforts that go away after a few days.
Re:F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes by drewrv on Saturday November 10, 2018 @12:08PM (#18422204)
I've known people who quit heroin and struggled to quit cigs. Which one is "harder" to quit is probably subjective and depends on the person, but there is a lot more going on than physical withdrawal symptoms.
Re:F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes by stevewillows on Sunday November 11, 2018 @07:55AM (#18426155)
I commented earlier in this thread, but I think one of the toughest aspects of quitting smoking is breaking the ritual.

I had so many friends who smoked, and our independent desires to quit were definitely not in sync. I don't doubt that this was one of the major factors in me drawing out my quitting process.

Re:F.D.A. Plans to Seek a Ban on Menthol Cigarettes by EpicEng on Saturday November 10, 2018 @08:41PM (#18424564)
I quit smoking. I'm pretty sure you have never done it.