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Re:So You Want to Learn Physics (2016) by naasking on Sunday November 04, 2018 @04:44PM (#18378218)
> I think computing science (not just software engineering) is slowly but surely becoming an essential part of many areas of modern physics research.

I like to say that physics, mathematics, and computer science are the three pillars of human knowledge. There's some overlap between each pillar, and we don't yet fully understand how each of them fully relate to the others, but each is essential to gathering a full picture of any phenomenon.

Re:So You Want to Learn Physics (2016) by Engineering-MD on Sunday November 04, 2018 @06:55PM (#18378758)
I think there must be more pillars than that. Biology and chemistry while related to physics are distinct (in the same way physics is not maths). More broadly, humanities and the arts are still valid areas of knowledge. Hacker news has a bias towards your three pillars, but I think it is important to acknowledge that human knowledge does go beyond CS, maths and physics.
Re:So You Want to Learn Physics (2016) by naasking on Sunday November 04, 2018 @07:08PM (#18378799)
I disagree re: biology and chemistry. Certainly they are epistemically useful simplifications of the other pillars, but they are not foundational or fundamental.

Physics is not math because it's an empirical rather than a priori exploration. We are trying to reproduce the function governing natural laws, where in mathematics we are exploring the properties of functions. Computer science in turn is concerned with the construction of mathematical structures via algorithms, and so physics will be one such construction.

I think trying to place humanities and the arts under "knowledge" is a category error. These fields don't produce knowledge as its commonly understood, as a corpus of mind-independent facts and their relationships. Certainly facts appear in these fields, such as historical facts and authorship, but I don't think building a corpus of facts is not the main purpose.

Re:So You Want to Learn Physics (2016) by Koshkin on Sunday November 04, 2018 @07:28PM (#18378888)
> simplifications of the other pillars

This fallacy is called "reductionism."

Re:So You Want to Learn Physics (2016) by wnoise on Monday November 05, 2018 @12:09AM (#18380015)
It's not universally accepted that it is fallacy. And for whatever it misses, reductionism is a hell of a tool that has been incredibly useful in understanding the world.

Of course, so are chemistry and biology, so blithely dismissed in the parent comment.

Re:So You Want to Learn Physics (2016) by naasking on Monday November 05, 2018 @08:45AM (#18382238)
> Of course, so are chemistry and biology, so blithely dismissed in the parent comment.

I didn't dismiss them at all, I explicitly said they are epistemically useful, but that doesn't entail we should accept them into our core ontology.

Re:So You Want to Learn Physics (2016) by naasking on Monday November 05, 2018 @08:31AM (#18382152)
Re:So You Want to Learn Physics (2016) by lolitan on Monday November 05, 2018 @01:20AM (#18380269)
Wrong. Philosophy and Mathematics are the real pillars of knowledge. Everything else can be derived from this including physics.
Re:So You Want to Learn Physics (2016) by naasking on Monday November 05, 2018 @08:48AM (#18382253)
Philosophy doesn't really produce knowledge, it explores and frames questions. When we accept that the questions define a coherent domain of discourse, we create a field of study that does produce knowledge. This is how natural philosophy became science, and if ethics ever gets to this point, we'll get a moral science which will produce moral knowledge. Ethics doesn't currently produce moral knowledge.
Re:So You Want to Learn Physics (2016) by minhazm423 on Monday November 05, 2018 @01:55AM (#18380406)
would you care to elaborate?
Re:So You Want to Learn Physics (2016) by kybian on Tuesday November 06, 2018 @02:21AM (#18389054)
And that's the problem with living in a philistinic society. When people think the sciences are the only noteworthy achievements of human intellect.