Re:Bitcoin’s ‘First Felon’ Faces More Legal Trouble
by apsec112 on Friday November 02, 2018 @04:03PM
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Ahhhh, yes, I remember Mr. Shrem. He acquired my Bitcoin company in 2012, we signed an acquisition contract and everything, and then he just never paid me and threatened me when I tried to collect (it was a five-figure sum). And to think I'd even helped him with his college math homework.
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Re:Bitcoin’s ‘First Felon’ Faces More Legal Trouble
by csomar on Friday November 02, 2018 @04:48PM
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> threatened me when I tried to collect
That part is not really clear. My understanding is that if he physically threatened you, you could file for a criminal case and he'll be in much deeper trouble than just not paying.
Re:Bitcoin’s ‘First Felon’ Faces More Legal Trouble
by delinka on Friday November 02, 2018 @04:13PM
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I’m hoping the contract’s execution was contingent on payment being received by you.
Re:Bitcoin’s ‘First Felon’ Faces More Legal Trouble
by derefr on Friday November 02, 2018 @06:02PM
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It always is, at least in the US. See (the legal doctrine of) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consideration.
Specifically this part:
> Consideration cannot be illusory
A contract without consideration is void. If you promise to give someone X (that you own) if they give you Y (that they own), and you never give them X, then you don't own their Y, even if it's already in your possession.
You just (non-forcefully) stole their Y—same as if you e.g. asked to borrow someone's phone and then walked away with it.
Re:Bitcoin’s ‘First Felon’ Faces More Legal Trouble
by nathancahill on Friday November 02, 2018 @05:33PM
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If only there was a currency that allowed that..
Re:Bitcoin’s ‘First Felon’ Faces More Legal Trouble
by concam on Friday November 02, 2018 @06:16PM
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Good luck trying to code a few hundred years of common law into a smart contract.
Re:Bitcoin’s ‘First Felon’ Faces More Legal Trouble
by fouc on Friday November 02, 2018 @11:02PM
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Start with one step. Then take another. Step by step. Be not daunted.
Re:Bitcoin’s ‘First Felon’ Faces More Legal Trouble
by twblalock on Friday November 02, 2018 @08:32PM
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Did you take him to court over the issue?
Re:Bitcoin’s ‘First Felon’ Faces More Legal Trouble
by ddtaylor on Sunday November 04, 2018 @01:51AM
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Around 2012 was a very problematic time to take someone to court with respect to Bitcoin. This was right around the time the SEC and other agencies were beginning to treat cryptocurrency as a money / brokerage and wanting people to get licenses, whereas almost every operating Bitcoin company had no such licenses.
Re:Bitcoin’s ‘First Felon’ Faces More Legal Trouble
by jtl999 on Friday November 02, 2018 @09:00PM
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That sucks
Re:Bitcoin’s ‘First Felon’ Faces More Legal Trouble
by icedchai on Friday November 02, 2018 @05:10PM
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I'm curious. What sort of "company" is acquired for 5 figures? I assume that's in USD and not BTC.
Re:Bitcoin’s ‘First Felon’ Faces More Legal Trouble
by apsec112 on Friday November 02, 2018 @05:18PM
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Just a website where I sold people Bitcoins over the Internet in my spare time. I don't think the scare quotes are warranted, I had over $1 million in total volume and it was consistently profitable.