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Re:U.S. Says China State-Owned Company Stole Micron Secrets by taobility on Friday November 02, 2018 @01:43AM (#18360942)
Tibet and Taiwan is internal affair. And the Korea war, China is trying to secure its border with Korea.
Re:U.S. Says China State-Owned Company Stole Micron Secrets by flomble on Friday November 02, 2018 @02:21AM (#18361036)
With respect to Taiwan: what is it that constitutes a nation, if not the common belief of its people that they are a nation, combined with the reality that they are under the control of a government which they recognise as their own?
Re:U.S. Says China State-Owned Company Stole Micron Secrets by throwaway855 on Friday November 02, 2018 @07:07AM (#18362117)
What's funny is that in this article, a Taiwanese company was also accused of stealing IP from Micron, but people are only talking about China.

So is the common believe of a group of people enough? Or does it need the recognition of others?

Re:U.S. Says China State-Owned Company Stole Micron Secrets by flomble on Friday November 02, 2018 @08:09AM (#18362390)
Good question. If the recognition of others is a deciding factor, then Taiwan was previously a nation (when its government was internationally recognised) but no longer is, which is a strange conclusion.

Partly, it depends on whether the debate over nation status is a merely one of linguistics and categorisation or whether we're making ethical arguments.

When Japan annexed Korea, did the Korean people cease to constitute a nation? When Japan annexed Taiwan, did Taiwan cease to rightfully belong to the Chinese government of the time?

(As an aside, I think that no-one talking about the Taiwanese company's involvement in IP theft is a pretty good example of how the press is incentivised to lead with a sensationalised narrative that inflames sentiments, how people focus on facts that fit a pre-existing narrative, and a general bias against China).

Re:U.S. Says China State-Owned Company Stole Micron Secrets by indemnity on Friday November 02, 2018 @01:52PM (#18365132)
Interesting theory, but Taiwan is an independent country, as is Tibet.
Re:U.S. Says China State-Owned Company Stole Micron Secrets by taobility on Friday November 02, 2018 @02:06PM (#18365246)
I couldn't understand why you think Tibet/Taiwan are independent countries. UN and even White House don't agree with that.
Re:U.S. Says China State-Owned Company Stole Micron Secrets by King-Aaron on Friday November 02, 2018 @04:29AM (#18361430)
mm hmm.