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Re:JavaScript is now required to sign in to Google by sjroot on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @08:05PM (#18350318)
What version of Firefox are you running? You are either exaggerating greatly or have other issues with your system. I run the latest stable release of Firefox and the performance of Gmail (particularly the features you mention) is fine. I’d be happy to upload a screen recording to verify.
Re:JavaScript is now required to sign in to Google by OrderlyTiamat on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @08:17PM (#18350402)
He's not the only one. It's a recurring comment here on hacker news and a problem I've encountered as well, and I'm running the latest stable release.
Re:JavaScript is now required to sign in to Google by allenz on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @10:38PM (#18351071)
Same here, I run the latest Firefox on both Windows and Linux. Gmail always takes at least 5 seconds to load.
Re:JavaScript is now required to sign in to Google by cpeterso on Thursday November 01, 2018 @04:06AM (#18352065)
If you experience a reproducible Firefox performance problem, please consider using the Firefox profiler add-on [1] to record a profile and file a bug with "[qf]" to the whiteboard field. These "[qf]" Firefox performance bugs get reviewed by engineers twice a week. Having a profile makes the bugs much easier to diagnose.

[1] https://perf-html.io/docs/#/

Re:JavaScript is now required to sign in to Google by rtpg on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @11:12PM (#18351192)
I think that Chrome also suffers on this front? But it's better at doing pre-fetching than Firefox is

This could really just be that part. I have a hard time imagining explicit sabotage of FF on the gmail frontend. The likeliest explanation is that perf testing and the like only happens in Chrome

Re:JavaScript is now required to sign in to Google by asdfasgasdgasdg on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @11:11PM (#18351187)
The classic question to ask at this point is whether this affects you with a fresh install, or only once you have added all your extensions?
Re:JavaScript is now required to sign in to Google by afandian on Thursday November 01, 2018 @07:18AM (#18352814)
Firefox 63.0. Fibre internet connection. 3.1 GHz Mac, 16 GB RAM.

It's tricky to share a screen recording because there's personal information. But I just did two for my own curiosity. From a fresh load, once the "Loading Gmail" screen has gone away, it took 8 seconds and 11 seconds respectively from clicking 'Compose' to having a new window open.

Maybe there is variability. There are a million combinations of factors out there. I suppose as an engineer you make the trade off of "do I hope for the best case" vs "do I make something that works for a broad audience". The previous version shows that they can make something that works for my own anecdatapoint if they want to.

Re:JavaScript is now required to sign in to Google by tyfon on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @08:11PM (#18350369)
I have a lot of issues with google apps for business. Sometimes I have to refresh the browser 5-6 times before it will display any email in the primary inbox as well.

It's just horrible to use in firefox (in arch linux) and I'm currently looking for a new provider.

I might just go all in and use protonmail.

Re:JavaScript is now required to sign in to Google by omnimus on Thursday November 01, 2018 @07:23AM (#18352855)
Protonmail is great but doesnt offer custom domains. If you need domains people mostly mention fastmail but i think there are far better choices like mailbox.org and kolabnow. Mailbox does not look like much from their homepage but it has awesome web client and it extremly reliable private provider thats in bussiness from 90s. I had account there for last 5 years without single problem.
Re:JavaScript is now required to sign in to Google by protonmail on Thursday November 01, 2018 @08:22AM (#18353237)
This is actually not quite right, we have offered custom domain support since 2016 :)

https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/custom-domain-...

Re:JavaScript is now required to sign in to Google by snazz on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @08:27PM (#18350451)
I've experienced both very fast and very slow with the new Gmail on the same machine with Firefox on Linux. It's currently faster than Chromium, but maybe tomorrow I'll see ten-second load times. Who knows? For the record, I use uMatrix (and uBlock Origin on easy mode for client-side cleanup), which might be affecting it somewhat.
Re:JavaScript is now required to sign in to Google by sjapkee on Thursday November 01, 2018 @11:38AM (#18354976)
>and the performance of Gmail (particularly the features you mention) is fine

>ten seconds to load your inbox

>16 GB, i7, SSD, 100 MB/s internet etc.

>fine

Re:JavaScript is now required to sign in to Google by brokenmachine on Friday November 02, 2018 @12:48AM (#18360769)
Exactly what I was thinking. How is that even close to fine? WTF?