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Re:Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, To... by Digory on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @10:56AM (#18337054)
New keyboard has a "4x more stable butterfly mechanism."

I'm still limping along on a 2012 Air. This could finally be the upgrade.

Re:Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, To... by nkkollaw on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @11:47AM (#18337820)
What does "stable" mean?

Keys don't stop working because of dust anymore..?

Re:Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, To... by em500 on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @01:59PM (#18339525)
> What does "stable" mean?

They mean the entire keys descends evenly even if you press the key near the edge, see: https://youtu.be/afNHG3jyPU4?t=265

Re:Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, To... by nkkollaw on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @04:38PM (#18341075)
That's what I thought.

The keyboard on my old 2016 MBP stopped functioning after 3 months: repeated characters, missing characters.

Who cares about stability!? Those keyboards don't work as keyboards!

Re:Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, To... by ascagnel_ on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @12:35PM (#18338480)
Having recently been switched from a 2013 MBP to 2018 MBP -- the older keycaps could wiggle a little bit if you rested your fingers on them. The new keys don't exhibit this behavior, but don't feel as nice to type on.
Re:Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, To... by 51lver on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @01:01PM (#18338808)
They are talking about the 1st gen butterfly problems. 2013 was pre-butterfly.
Re:Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, To... by nkkollaw on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @04:39PM (#18341079)
I think it's a non-problem.

The new keyboards cease functioning with dust particles.

Re:Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, To... by thefounder on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @11:38AM (#18337652)
Any idea why the processor is only 1.5? I have a 2011 Model with 1.8ghz
Re:Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, To... by akvadrako on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @11:51AM (#18337884)
Does your 2011 model have 3 Ghz turbo boost? That's just how modern processors work - lower clocks but still higher performance.
Re:Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, To... by SyneRyder on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @03:28PM (#18340464)
I looked up the specs - the 2011 1.8GHz was an i7-2677M. It did have a Turbo Boost up to 2.9Ghz.
Re:Apple Finally Updates MacBook Air with Retina Display, To... by ianhowson on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @02:27PM (#18339846)
This is the correct answer. 'Base clock' is just the steady-state clock speed given power and thermals. Boost clock is more relevant in general usage.