IBM’s Old Playbook

Re:IBM’s Old Playbook by samstave on Monday October 29, 2018 @01:23PM (#18329236)

Seems like Redhat is to IBM as a new puppy is to a failing relationship...

However, I am not optimistic that a Glorious Future will be the outcome from the RedHat acquisition;

While at Mirantis, I was assisting in RedHat's implementation of OpenStack with Intel/IBM and it was a nightmare.

OpenStack, at that time was very difficult to implement with smooth success (much like a JBOSS / WebObjects / Tomcat nightmare implementations back in the early days) -- and the BigCo process-procedure-competency-silos that goes along with it...

I can only expect that adding more layers of abstraction and ambiguity of ownership will make for headaches.

Here is to hoping that my pessimistic outlook is proven wrong.

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Re:IBM’s Old Playbook by lima on Monday October 29, 2018 @02:03PM (#18329626)

OpenStack is still a nightmare, no matter what distribution.

OpenShift, on the other hand, is a breath of fresh air (k8s in general is - the quality is so much higher). Things just work and the docs don't conveniently leave out all the important details.

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Re:IBM’s Old Playbook by Bombthecat on Monday October 29, 2018 @03:01PM (#18330233)

Try to install kubernetes by hand.. It reminds me of the old days of "dependency hell"

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Re:IBM’s Old Playbook by lima on Monday October 29, 2018 @03:25PM (#18330457)

Now try it using OpenShift's installer. It's awesome :)

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Re:IBM’s Old Playbook by shaklee3 on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @01:02AM (#18334103)

Not really. Unless you haven't tried it recently, there are many great options. Kubeadm is painless for simple clusters, and kubespray is easy if you know ansible. Of course, both assume some level of sysadmin experience, since it's a tool to manage large clusters.

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Re:IBM’s Old Playbook by rad_gruchalski on Monday October 29, 2018 @08:34PM (#18333004)

Yes, took about a week to figure that one out. Most of the tutorials are always out of date.

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Re:IBM’s Old Playbook by samstave on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @02:20AM (#18334299)

You-know-what, I owe myself and everyone involved with that project a little more info:

I was the lead PM responsible for managing the implementation of the OpenStack on RedHat+IBM with Intel TXT being the premise of the implementation such that RH could go back and replicate into their own thing...

It was a nightmare project, but on no part, individually of RH, Intel or IBM or Mirantis...

Openstack just was NOT READY for production secure workloads.

The project was just a bunch of people trying to do their best with shitty tools...

But, openstack/shift/the-current-marketplace wouldnt be without the sacrifice of crap on the battlefield.

So, at the end of the day, just hope that all your failures are something that others can trample to make-the-world-a-better-place...

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Re:IBM’s Old Playbook by PopsiclePete on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @10:39AM (#18336877)

OpenStack screams “enterprise” and “architects” at the top of its lungs and I for one want nothing to do with that crap. I know exactly what it is just by looking at it - a hobbled together patchwork soup of poorly documented and half-abandoned open source middleware that is meant to pay consultants’ salaries and nothing more. Definitely not meant to solve real problems, that’s for damn sure.

Who is fooled by this anymore, really? Non-technical middle managers who read a bunch of marketing materials?

You can pry k8s from my cold dead hands.

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