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Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by giardini on Monday October 29, 2018 @11:50AM (#18328466)
What drugs specifically are in the "cocktail"?

I could not access the paywalled paper. Gratefully fanzhang answered my question below:

fanzhang:>The paper says: Metformin, Psora-4, Rapamycin, Rifampicin, and Allantoin.

Here's a 2017 article w/o paywall which identified the five drugs above and also the best combinations (for worms) at that time:

"Rapamycin,rifampicin, Psora-4 cocktail doubles lifespan":

https://alivebynature.com/rapamycinrifampicin-psora-4-cockta...

The article states that the most successful one(at that time) was rapamycin + rifampicin + allantoin, resulting in a doubling of mean lifespan.

Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by chilledheat on Monday October 29, 2018 @11:55AM (#18328514)
Did you read the article?

"The drug rapamycin is currently administered following organ transplants to prevent the body's immune system from rejecting the transplanted organs, but previous experiments by other research groups showed that it extends the lifespan of many organisms, including the C. elegans worms, fruit flies and mice"

Dr Gruber's team administered combinations of two or three compounds targeting different ageing pathways to C. elegans (worms).

Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by stochastic_monk on Monday October 29, 2018 @12:08PM (#18328620)
You provided some understanding from the article, which is appreciated.

As a friendly reminder, the guidelines state: “Please don't insinuate that someone hasn't read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that."”

Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by morsmodr on Monday October 29, 2018 @01:29PM (#18329285)
Why would you think that the question immediately implies an insinuation? It is a perfectly normal question to ask based on data. Article gives info. First comment (now no longer the top comment) asks question on info, response from person who read the article - did you read the article? It is logical to me, I don't think there was any insinuation here, just asking for verification. Simple as that :)

A better question in the first place would be - I read the article but am unable to figure out which are the drugs actually used as I do not have much background in Bio/Pharma science

Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by dvfjsdhgfv on Monday October 29, 2018 @04:29PM (#18331078)
> Why would you think that the question immediately implies an insinuation?

This may be culture-dependent, but I guess most people would feel it that way.

Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by stochastic_monk on Monday October 29, 2018 @04:44PM (#18331224)
In my experience, the question is stronger than an insinuation, coming across as an accusation.
Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by morsmodr on Thursday November 08, 2018 @11:43AM (#18407573)
This is an issue with text conversation exchange. We do not have information on the tone of voice. And it is unfair to imagine a tone based on what we read
Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by donquichotte on Monday October 29, 2018 @12:05PM (#18328603)
I'm not a biologist, but wouldn't an immunosuppressant's "life prolonging" effects be negated in a non-petri-dish-environment by bacterial, viral and fungal infections to the recepient?
Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by BurningFrog on Monday October 29, 2018 @12:18PM (#18328689)
Ah yes, Metformin is strongly believed to extend human life span. I've been thinking about asking my doctor for a prescription.
Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by toomuchtodo on Monday October 29, 2018 @12:41PM (#18328888)
Please ask and report back as a data point! I obtain Metformin through non-traditional channels, as I don't have a PCP and Walgreens/CVS aren't able to prescribe it off label. Life would be easier if it could just end up in my mailbox once a month/every three months.
Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by JohnJamesRambo on Monday October 29, 2018 @12:54PM (#18328986)
Alldaychemist.com can do just that. I’ve found them quite reliable and certainly better than your normal pharmacy experience if you can wait on the package to arrive from India.
Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by onetimemanytime on Monday October 29, 2018 @12:26PM (#18328753)
This makes sense. Glucose at above certain levels ruins cells, so Metformin lowers the glucose level. Asking the doc is key, you can't just read an article and try to find 4-5 meds to take each day :)
Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by cgh on Monday October 29, 2018 @12:40PM (#18328872)
You can also eat a very low-carb diet. Restricting your carbs to foods like greens and berries will have the same effect without the need for a prescription. Gluconeogenesis is demand-driven.

Of course, in the context of anti-aging, Metformin may have other beneficial effects outside of moderating glucose levels.

Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by onetimemanytime on Monday October 29, 2018 @02:50PM (#18330123)
Yeah, but taking a pill and eating what you want (more or less) is much better
Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by village-idiot on Monday October 29, 2018 @12:54PM (#18328983)
Fasting is also a good idea. It forces your body to kill off marginal cells for food, rather than leaving them to potentially become cancer.
Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by _Schizotypy on Monday October 29, 2018 @01:07PM (#18329095)
Can you cite a source please? I would be very interested in reading it
Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by sushid on Monday October 29, 2018 @02:03PM (#18329628)
Not the parent but try searching online for fasting and autophagy. There are countless sources regarding this link.

Another good recent study is the intestinal stem cell regenerative boost after a 24 hour fast in mice.

One might say that the links are still not solid, but we do know that lowering glucose levels might be a good idea (hence the interest in metformin) and fasting/keto certainly achieves that without a drug.

Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by village-idiot on Monday October 29, 2018 @05:50PM (#18331858)
I really like the stuff that Mark Sisson writes on fasting[0], because he explains and links all his sources.

0. https://www.marksdailyapple.com/health-benefits-of-intermitt...

Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by BurningFrog on Monday October 29, 2018 @11:50PM (#18333898)
Oh, that's a cute concrete theory I've never heard before.

I do fast occasionally, but not as often as I'd wish.

Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by village-idiot on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @08:33AM (#18335892)
If you want to learn more, the biological process is called “autophagy”.
Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by JamesBarney on Monday October 29, 2018 @01:38PM (#18329381)
I don't think it's primary effect on lifespan is through glucose regulation. There are other diabetes medications that don't have this same effect.

Also see https://www.gwern.net/Longevity#metformin for more info.

Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by mrnobody_67 on Monday October 29, 2018 @01:23PM (#18329234)
I've been trying Berberine, which controls blood glucose effectively at 1000-1500mg per day doses.
Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by newnewpdro on Monday October 29, 2018 @03:07PM (#18330292)
That's in Goldenseal, which I've never heard of having an anti-ageing effect.
Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by lazerpants on Monday October 29, 2018 @11:55AM (#18328509)
Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by baccheion on Monday October 29, 2018 @05:34PM (#18331738)
Selegiline has also been associated with increased lifespan. I sometimes wonder if vitamin D's effect on blood sugar is comparable to metformin.
Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by detaro on Monday October 29, 2018 @11:55AM (#18328506)
The drugs are clearly listed in the paper, as has been mentioned here in the comments already.
Re:Drug cocktail almost doubles lifespan of worms by wackro on Monday October 29, 2018 @11:53AM (#18328491)
Well, this is just an article. The paper is here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S15345...

I'm not sure if the paper mentions the drugs.