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Re:U.S. Secretly Halted JPMorgan’s Growth for Years by llukas on Monday October 29, 2018 @12:43AM (#18325125)
> The creditors who provided the loans were giving loans to stupid people

Anybody can seek to obtain loan. Creditors are professionals.

Never forget that.

Re:U.S. Secretly Halted JPMorgan’s Growth for Years by Terr_ on Monday October 29, 2018 @01:18AM (#18325233)
Exactly: The question is not "who was stupid", the question is "who failed at their FULL TIME JOB of preventing that kind of stupidity from mattering."

Humans are all stupid and fallible in some ways or situations, and we create organizations in order to direct our strengths in a way that shores up the weaknesses.

An ignorant student is regretful-but-expected, while an ignorant teacher is a problem.

Re:U.S. Secretly Halted JPMorgan’s Growth for Years by richardknop on Monday October 29, 2018 @06:43AM (#18326351)
Yes. But people are responsible for their actions. Taking out a loan has consequences and people should not be striped of those. Somebody who takes a payday loan and goes to casino is responsible for his/her action, it's not just the loan shark's fault.
Re:U.S. Secretly Halted JPMorgan’s Growth for Years by pas on Monday October 29, 2018 @07:29AM (#18326563)
Sure, but unless we spend some effort (money) on curing or shooting the unlucky addict it won't lead to pretty things. Responsibility or not. And usually in civilized countries we don't like to shoot mentally ill people. But for some reason just watching as they tear apart their and their loved one's lives is a-ok, because responsibility. :(
Re:U.S. Secretly Halted JPMorgan’s Growth for Years by richardknop on Monday October 29, 2018 @07:40AM (#18326628)
Because responsible people then have to bail these people out with their savings / taxes going up. It's a moral hazard. If there are no consequences for your actions / financial decisions, people will never learn and will continue making bad choices because why not.
Re:U.S. Secretly Halted JPMorgan’s Growth for Years by pas on Monday October 29, 2018 @08:27AM (#18326901)
Agreed. But simply letting responsibility run its course does not make the world a magically better place. Processes that lead to better global state often require catalysts, such as gov intervention (regulation, Fed actions, addiction treatment, etc).
Re:U.S. Secretly Halted JPMorgan’s Growth for Years by Arbitrary4657 on Monday October 29, 2018 @10:12AM (#18327657)
The taxpayers are the responsible ones, while the bankers are not. I agree with you.
Re:U.S. Secretly Halted JPMorgan’s Growth for Years by eli_gottlieb on Monday October 29, 2018 @11:41AM (#18328378)
Losing your money when you lend it stupidly is only fair and responsible, too.