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Re:The State of Agile Software in 2018 by beat on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @12:33PM (#18293928)
I disagree there. Chaos occurs naturally. Agile takes real work and discipline.

Cowboy coding isn't agile.

Re:The State of Agile Software in 2018 by setquk on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @02:48PM (#18295234)
No. An organisation buys in “agile” as an ideological solution to a lack of disciplined professionals.

Disciplined professionals self organise. No ideology is ever discussed even if they use it.

The difference is focus. And that’s crazy important.

I’ve been at this for 20 years and watched both successful and unsuccessful teams. The most successful team are not ideologically or process driven. And quality, time to market and technical debt is orders of magnitude lower than any externally applied agile class process which is purely focused on delivery and compartmentalisation.

Re:The State of Agile Software in 2018 by beat on Thursday October 25, 2018 @11:22AM (#18301585)
I've been working on and off with formal agile since 2002, and worked on "disciplined professionals" teams.

You know what is disciplined? Formalizing a process and following it, even when it's inconvenient or annoying. Getting by on talent, high bandwidth communication, and sufficiently small scope might work, but don't call it "discipline". It's luck and narrowly defined circumstance.

Try using that method on a $50M enterprise project with 100+ developers and see how far you get before you choke to death.

Re:The State of Agile Software in 2018 by setquk on Friday October 26, 2018 @11:36AM (#18310215)
Been there. Done that. Before any agile methodologies were popularlised.
Re:The State of Agile Software in 2018 by conradfr on Thursday October 25, 2018 @11:30AM (#18301652)
I wonder how humans even got to the Moon without Scrum.
Re:The State of Agile Software in 2018 by beat on Thursday October 25, 2018 @04:28PM (#18304300)
I wonder what percentage of rockets blew up on the launchpad?
Re:The State of Agile Software in 2018 by setquk on Friday October 26, 2018 @11:43AM (#18310291)
What percentage of agile managed enterprise software platforms blow up before they even get to the launch?