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Re:Salesforce CEO: tech billionaires 'hoard their money' and... by SilasX on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @07:18PM (#18244664)
Everyone uses public infrastructure. That's what makes it "public infrastructure". Should we raise your taxes to 80% "because you use the roads that are built by taxes"?
Re:Salesforce CEO: tech billionaires 'hoard their money' and... by ForrestN on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @07:22PM (#18244685)
No—but we should probably do what we can to make each person and company's tax burden proportionate to their size and income. And we probably shouldn't frame efforts to do so as "taking money from the rich" as if wealthy people are somehow living in a separate community.
Re:Salesforce CEO: tech billionaires 'hoard their money' and... by newtothebay on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @07:49PM (#18244824)
Isn't a flat tax rate already "proportionate to size and income"? What's the justification for higher tax rate for the rich? I agree that their wealth depends on public infrastructure, but I'm not sure that their level of dependence is higher than us.

(I'm asking as a proponent of progressive tax rate, just not for this reason. So I'd like to clarify)

Re:Salesforce CEO: tech billionaires 'hoard their money' and... by ForrestN on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @10:27PM (#18245450)
I may not have expressed my position clearly. Because most costs of living are fixed and not proportionate to income, taking 20% of the income of a poor person will have a disproportionate affect on them, as opposed to someone with a very high income for whom the difference will only marginally affect their standard of living. Take 30% of someone's $20,000 income and you will deeply compromise their ability to exist comfortably in society. Taking 30% of someone's $5,000,000 income will have no effect on their ability to cover their needs and live comfortably.

A flat tax, then, is actually quite regressive, rather than neutral.

Speaking in terms of companies, though, there is also a question of proportion vis a vis size—bigger companies and their employees tend to cost taxpayers quite a bit more than small businesses. There are no giant Twitter-like subsidies for five-man firms, for example. Larger firms are much more likely to make use of legal infrastructure, to need regulation, and to have the power to seek accommodation by the government for infrastructure needed for their given business.

Re:Salesforce CEO: tech billionaires 'hoard their money' and... by hueving on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @07:58PM (#18244878)
Do you know what a percentage is? Not only are taxes already proportionate to profit, but they are disproportionate larger for higher incomes in any progressive taxation scheme.
Re:Salesforce CEO: tech billionaires 'hoard their money' and... by ForrestN on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @10:33PM (#18245479)
In common English, rather than mathematics, proportionate merely implies that these things are related in size or amount. There is no implication of a fixed ratio. Replace "proportionate" with "appropriately related" if that helps.
Re:Salesforce CEO: tech billionaires 'hoard their money' and... by hueving on Saturday October 20, 2018 @06:06PM (#18265749)
Percentages are "related in size".