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Re:You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquet... by kevin_thibedeau on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @03:46PM (#18243021)
Tips shouldn't be expected if you're on regular minimum wage rather than the tipped wage.
Re:You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquet... by brokenmachine on Friday October 19, 2018 @01:55AM (#18254484)
Maybe service workers should wear badges showing their hourly wage, then customers would know how much they should tip. /s
Re:You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquet... by smnrchrds on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @05:56PM (#18244213)
In my province in Canada, we have one minimum wage, $15 per hour, and at least 15% tip is still very much expected.
Re:You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquet... by asdff on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @11:32PM (#18245703)
Even in the U.S. if your tips + tipped worker minimum wage fail to reach untipped worker minimum wage, your employer pays the difference (1).

1. https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm

Re:You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquet... by kevinmchugh on Thursday October 18, 2018 @10:05AM (#18248384)
I encourage you to talk to service workers to see how often this happens
Re:You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquet... by TheAceOfHearts on Thursday October 18, 2018 @02:12PM (#18250666)
It's illegal. They can sue the restaurant.

As far as I can tell most servers like tips because it lets them earn much more money than minimum wage.

Also, nowadays it's quite easy to get a message out to a huge audience. I'd certainly boycott any place that were so horribly mistreating its employees.

Re:You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquet... by ubernostrum on Saturday October 20, 2018 @06:37AM (#18262661)
Seriously, go over to reddit and read /r/legaladvice for a while.

The almost daily litany of posts of "my employer is doing (list of highly illegal things involving wages), what should I do" will be a pretty big wakeup call for you. And if you think "well they can just sue" is an easy answer, remember employees who are identifiable as the source of wage complaints are at risk of being fired. That's illegal, too, but do you really think an employer who's already breaking labor laws will be scrupulous about not retaliating?

Also, these folks will really open your eyes (click through to the full report linked at the bottom):

https://www.epi.org/publication/wage-theft-bigger-problem-fo...

Their data (2012) showed that the amount recovered from wage claims against US employers was three times the dollar value of all robberies in the US combined. Just the amount recovered; the amount actually owed but not paid is likely to be larger.

Re:You Want 20% for Handing Me a Muffin? The Awkward Etiquet... by shawnz on Thursday October 18, 2018 @05:23PM (#18252259)
> Also, nowadays it's quite easy to get a message out to a huge audience. I'd certainly boycott any place that were so horribly mistreating its employees.

Then get ready to boycott 80% of restaurants in North America. It's a hugely abusive industry