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Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by 706f6f70 on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @08:15AM (#18238200)
The really interesting studies will be longitudinal IMO. It's almost certainly not going to be another tobacco, but it strikes me as impossible that smoking marijuana is harmless. Should also be interesting to see what marijuana culture develops when the entire country is allowed to consume it legally.
Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by neonscribe on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @09:08AM (#18238552)
It is extremely likely that inhaling combustion products of any kind is harmful to our health.
Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by shittyadmin on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @09:19AM (#18238632)
Pretty much - however the differences we've seen so far are quite interesting. Lung cancer and COPD risks don't seem to be what we'd think for cannabis smoke based what we know of tobacco smoke. Somewhat more minor lung conditions are definitely present though.

It'll also be interesting to see how things like dry herb vapes differ, they basically just heat the cannabis to 350-400 degrees where the cannabinoids and terpenes vaporize without burning it, they seem like the best way to go if you want a reasonably good dose control and safety margin at the moment. Avoids many of the issues with concentrate vapes, flavorings, cheap heating coils, etc but I still have some doubts on perfect safety there.

Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by titzer on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @10:31AM (#18239419)
Use a vaporizer or one of the myriad ways to decarboxylate and extract THC in its pure form and you can avoid this.
Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by Simon_says on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @09:46AM (#18238861)
Agreed. But you can ingest marijuana.
Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by sigstoat on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @10:15AM (#18239232)
> It's almost certainly not going to be another tobacco, but it strikes me as impossible that smoking marijuana is harmless.

it is known not to be harmless. it can cause cardiovascular issues. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ijcard.2006.08.001

Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by arcticbull on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @12:57PM (#18241012)
Probably not if you eat it, though.
Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by sigstoat on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @01:07PM (#18241107)
i suggest perusing the bibliography before you get your hopes up.
Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by saiya-jin on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @09:32AM (#18238733)
It certainly isn't completely harmless, very few things are.

Subjective perspective - smoking is really bad, can be dramatically improved with good vaping but its still harmful. One of the great side effects of legalization - health-conscious people have less damaging options for consumption. Eliminated by eating the material, but then effects are a bit different. There have been some rumors on lower sperm count/lowered movement, not sure if related more to smoking any material or something in cannabis causing it. For short term buzz maybe some nasal spray would be great (again, legalization can help this get done properly).

Then there are mental effects - people are mentally incapacitated, usually even day after is felt, short term memory negatively impaired. Long term frequent usage leads to mild dependence, which can be given up much easier compared to ie cigarettes. Can trigger dormant mental illnesses, and amplify them with long term usage (I guess paranoia is the most common one, schizophrenics would be also bad - same can be achieved with any other drug including alcohol, or big shock like car crash).

Side effects of behavior can be quite destructive too - 'munchies' cravings for unhealthy food (sweet, fried etc) - long term disastrous for health just like any other overeating.

I can't think of anything else right now, but for sure there is something else. Overall relatively low harm, especially when things like alcohol and tobacco roam civilization almost freely

Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by protomok on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @01:01PM (#18241051)
I frequently hear teenagers and young adults say things like 'Cannabis is harmless', 'not as bad as alcohol', etc.

The issue here is the initial research consistently shows us the opposite - frequent cannabis use appears to cause developmental delay and may cause _irreversible_ mental illness in adolescents that is in at least one case worse than alcohol.

Let's take Schizophrenia as an example:

  Increased Risk of Schizophrenia from Alcohol and drugs:

  Cannabis: 5.2 times
  Alcohol: 3.4 times
  Hallucinogenic drugs: 1.9 times
  Sedatives: 1.7 times
  Amphetamines: 1.24 times
  Other substances: 2.8 times 
source: http://schizophrenia.com/?p=793

Direct link to study - https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/psychological-medici...

Since the brain doesn't fully develop until 25 I don't disagree that alcohol and other legal substances are dangerous for adolescents but from the initial research we are seeing Cannabis is in some cases more damaging than alcohol and requires further study.

Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by Raphmedia on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @02:19PM (#18241957)
This is why it is 18+ and 21+ to buy it legally. Children should not take any mind altering substances. Nobody is arguing that it is harmless for kids.
Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by 131012 on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @10:59AM (#18239697)
Munchies can be about eating anything. Just make sure you got plenty of fruits and veggies or go for a long session of oral sex. Nobody ever got in bad shape for eating a full bag of baby cut carrots or a whole tray of peaches.
Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by cheeko1234 on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @12:37PM (#18240785)
Wow. One of those things is not like the other...
Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by arcticbull on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @12:58PM (#18241024)
What's wrong with the tray of peaches :P
Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by alistairSH on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @08:40AM (#18238369)
Do we know what percentage of cannabis users actually smoke raw plant vs edibles, oils, etc? Not that the other products are necessarily harmless, but probably less problematic for lung health than smoking a giant blunt.
Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by stefek99 on Thursday October 18, 2018 @06:57AM (#18247305)
Marijuana can be ingested in many ways, smoking being probably the most harmful due to combustion.

> smoking marijuana is harmless

The opposite. Consuming (know your dosage, know your substance) can have a variety of health benefits.

It is worth noting there a known side-effects too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_cannabis#Impact_on_psy...

Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by arountheworld on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @02:22PM (#18241980)
There is a decades-long study by Tashkin et al., not being able to find that smoking cannabis is significantly harmful. I am on my phone so don't have it at hand.
Re:Cannabis is legal in Canada: What you need to know by Spooks on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @10:17AM (#18239265)
the packaging for cannabis in Canada (well at least Ontario) already states that smoking is harmful, as well as other health issues