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Re:Facebook lured advertisers by inflating video ad-watch ti... by throwaway_trust on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @10:33PM (#18235641)
I work in ad-tech and let me tell you all these wall gardens are so arrogant that they create their own metrics for measurement and bully industry (especially marketers to follow them).

I strongly believe only way to bring these mega companies to senses and rein in on their arrogance by trust busting and creating level playing field for competition.

We need DOJ and anti-trust into big 3 oligopoly (GOOG, FB, AMZN) to crack down on them. They are too big for small players to compete.

Re:Facebook lured advertisers by inflating video ad-watch ti... by maxwell on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @12:23PM (#18240603)
For anyone in the U.S. who feels similarly, I urge you to write to the FTC and your representatives, and specifically:

1) Call for abandoning the "Consumer Welfare Standard"

2) Enumerate how the Tech Tyrants have negatively affected the competitiveness of companies/projects you've worked on (M&A, canceled products, vaporware, embrace and extend, pricing changes, etc.)

http://rooseveltinstitute.org/consumer-welfare-standard-outd...

https://medium.com/@CDisrupted/does-the-consumer-welfare-sta...

http://rooseveltinstitute.org/effective-competition-standard...

Big Tech is lobbying hard to retain the "Consumer Welfare Standard", which they rely on for anti-trust evasion:

https://itif.org/publications/2018/10/04/why-consumer-welfar...

https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/dont-damage-our-democra...

Re:Facebook lured advertisers by inflating video ad-watch ti... by adtac on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @12:12AM (#18236085)
I'm just wondering, at how many companies does a oligopoly become a healthy, competitive environment?
Re:Facebook lured advertisers by inflating video ad-watch ti... by lmm on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @11:09AM (#18239792)
I once saw an economics paper that used a simple model and showed that when the top 4 companies in a given industry controlled more than 60% of the market they would naturally behave like a cartel even if they weren't coordinating. So that's probably the tipping point.
Re:Facebook lured advertisers by inflating video ad-watch ti... by maxwell on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @11:58AM (#18240306)
Interesting, I'd love to see the source if you can find it.
Re:Facebook lured advertisers by inflating video ad-watch ti... by TeMPOraL on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @04:43AM (#18237265)
It's context-dependent. Sometimes 10, sometimes 50. But definitely not 3.
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Re:Facebook lured advertisers by inflating video ad-watch ti... by dang on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @11:22AM (#18239948)
Personal attacks will get you banned here, regardless of how strongly you feel about ads or anything else. Please don't do this again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Facebook lured advertisers by inflating video ad-watch ti... by monochromatic on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @12:15PM (#18240522)
Sorry about that. I had a few drinks in me.

Thanks for trying to keep this place civil.