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Re:China May Have $5.8T in Hidden Debt with ‘Titanic’ Risks by IkmoIkmo on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @04:23PM (#18232908)
Because you're comparing national average income to non-national housing prices.

The average house is not at all more expensive in China than in the US.

It is true that in particular cities like Beijing or Shanghai the average sits around $7-9k per square meter (divide by 10 roughly for square foot), far higher than the average in the US. (divide by ten roughly for square foot). That's way more than in the US. But then consider these are megacities with a GDP of roughly half a trillion dollars. About half a million millionaires live in Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong. These are the top tier cities of the 22nd century's superpower, prices are going to reflect the notion that property in these cities should keep its value and appreciate strongly.

Median wages are already on par in these cities with various eastern-european countries. And income inequality is among the worst in the world, so you've got this small percentage of people who can elevate property prices to ridiculous heights. Only Shanghai and Beijing each have a population equivalent to 25 times San Fransisco, so a few rich people adds up to ridiculous prices.

I'm not saying these prices necessarily make sense, I certainly wouldn't buy there. But it's also not impossible to see why they're this high.

Re:China May Have $5.8T in Hidden Debt with ‘Titanic’ Risks by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @04:50PM (#18233132)
Anecdotally, my wife owns a villa in a fifth tier city (even under another city as a prefecture!), and housing prices there seem comparable to a smaller American city (like say Spokane) of similar size.

The median income in Beijing is around 18k RMB/month. The one bedroom we were renting was 7500 RMB/month, which was considered neither cheap nor expensive...it was definitely cheap for what I was making but then I had to forgo a lot of niceties that I wanted (like a real shower). My rent in the states is much higher but I don't have to worry about the same crappiness that even a high-end Beijing apartment has.

Re:China May Have $5.8T in Hidden Debt with ‘Titanic’ Risks by LrnByTeach on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @08:22PM (#18234480)
>The median income in Beijing is around 18k RMB/month. The one bedroom we were renting was 7500 RMB/month.

The median income in Silicon valley California is around $7000/month. The one bedroom rent is $2000/month.

so it seems, Silicon valley and top Chinese cities comparable when it comes to expensive housing ...

Re:China May Have $5.8T in Hidden Debt with ‘Titanic’ Risks by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @11:05PM (#18235816)
I mean, you aren’t wrong. China just has a housing bubble, it doesn’t really have a housing shortage like SV has. So while housing might be really expensive to buy, rents can still be very affordable.

Still, paying half your before tax income on rent vs, less than 30% is really significant.

Re:China May Have $5.8T in Hidden Debt with ‘Titanic’ Risks by aurailious on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @05:09PM (#18233294)
Last time I was in Beijing I was told not to flush toilet paper. Is that still the case?
Re:China May Have $5.8T in Hidden Debt with ‘Titanic’ Risks by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @05:14PM (#18233334)
You can flush it in most higher residences as long as the toilet paper is soluable. I think the reason binning developed was that the Chinese didn't produce soluable toilet paper in the past, and now the habit carried on (my grandma told my mom, my mom told me) even though the tech has caught up. I'm not really sure about squat toilets, though.

Never drink the water though. Even boiling isn't that safe anymore, just use bottled.

Re:China May Have $5.8T in Hidden Debt with ‘Titanic’ Risks by voltagex_ on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @05:33PM (#18233497)
What's in the water?
Re:China May Have $5.8T in Hidden Debt with ‘Titanic’ Risks by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @05:34PM (#18233506)
China's crazy bad water pollution.
Re:China May Have $5.8T in Hidden Debt with ‘Titanic’ Risks by zhte415 on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @12:13AM (#18236088)
Heavy metals.
Re:China May Have $5.8T in Hidden Debt with ‘Titanic’ Risks by baybal2 on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @03:00AM (#18236772)
Poop