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Re:Madrid announces new rules of the road in bid to banish t... by clukic on Saturday October 06, 2018 @03:45PM (#18156887)
After leaving NYC I've lived in more than a dozen European cities over the last five years. The one commonality that I've seen is that where ever an area is pedestrianized it just explodes with life. Terraces, shops, children, dogs.

No one wants to be anywhere near a 100km/hr road. It can sometimes be ok to walk next to a 50km/hr road but it's not nice and it's best to avoid it. 30 km/hr you can stroll or sit on a terrace and it's fine. But when it's 20km/hr or just closed everything changes.

When there's no chance your kid is going to get killed by a car, he can just go out and play. Your dog can sit off leash under your table while you eat. You can be absorbed in a conversation and not worry a misstep will result in serious injury or death.

We somehow just accept that the possibility of death or jury is just outside our door. Like live electric wires running down streets. When you take them away, everyone just relaxes a lot more.

Re:Madrid announces new rules of the road in bid to banish t... by SamReidHughes on Saturday October 06, 2018 @06:39PM (#18157709)
There have been pedestrianization attempts that failed. Just like failed malls. European cities mostly have a better layout for that sort of thing.
Re:Madrid announces new rules of the road in bid to banish t... by cco on Saturday October 06, 2018 @09:47PM (#18158432)
Do you have any examples? I'm always curious for counter points.
Re:Madrid announces new rules of the road in bid to banish t... by tatami on Sunday October 07, 2018 @01:56AM (#18159046)
There were few mentioned in the comments to the article about Pontevedra.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18014283

Re:Madrid announces new rules of the road in bid to banish t... by SamReidHughes on Saturday October 06, 2018 @11:49PM (#18158747)
I don't know examples offhand, sorry. I mean, there's some if you google "failed pedestrian malls".
Re:Madrid announces new rules of the road in bid to banish t... by ocschwar on Saturday October 06, 2018 @11:02PM (#18158626)
I can point to one that succeeded quite nicely. Quincy Market in Boston.