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Re:Madrid announces new rules of the road in bid to banish t... by plufz on Saturday October 06, 2018 @11:44AM (#18155688)
Same can be said for not having the individual choice to destroy the climate for the next generation. Right?
Re:Madrid announces new rules of the road in bid to banish t... by kareemsabri on Saturday October 06, 2018 @12:03PM (#18155776)
To some extent. It's a hard problem. As I mentioned originally, it's difficult to get a bunch of non-cooperating people to share things that are collectively owned (like air). People want to move themselves and their stuff around, which pollutes. I genuinely don't know the answer, but there are a lot of things that damage the environment for future generations (who, I agree, are not represented well enough in our decision making). If this is a climate change thing, there's a lot of things to do. If it's a congestion/quality of urban life thing (as I read it), it's a bit of a different discussion.

Here are a few options that would restrict individual choice to reduce air pollution.

- banning air travel more than 3 times per year (turns out propelling giant hunks of metal through the sky releases a lot of CO2)

- insisting all new cars be electric

- banning cars in cities

- limiting the purchase of meat to a low amount per person per week

- a limit on consumptive spending (buying newly manufactured goods) annually

Re:Madrid announces new rules of the road in bid to banish t... by CalRobert on Saturday October 06, 2018 @12:28PM (#18155890)
Or.... just make all that stuff expensive.
Re:Madrid announces new rules of the road in bid to banish t... by emit_time on Sunday October 07, 2018 @06:18PM (#18162916)
Taxes (or tax credits etc.) to price in externalities
Re:Madrid announces new rules of the road in bid to banish t... by kareemsabri on Saturday October 06, 2018 @12:33PM (#18155912)
Yep, as I suggested in my original comment.
Re:Madrid announces new rules of the road in bid to banish t... by eeZah7Ux on Saturday October 06, 2018 @02:50PM (#18156609)
> options that would restrict individual choice

That's technically true but frames the conversation in a biased way.

Re:Madrid announces new rules of the road in bid to banish t... by kareemsabri on Saturday October 06, 2018 @03:00PM (#18156653)
Do tell.