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Re:Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repai... by sgt on Friday October 05, 2018 @03:43AM (#18146409)
We mitigate this risk by just having a spare device or spare laptop on premises. It works and it's cheap. We use tons of Macs in a business setting, and we're definitely not going back to PC's. The PC's were a nightmare (not in terms of the hardware, but because of the sofware) from a management and administration perspective. Primarily because of Windows. Using Macs running macOS has really been a gamechanger.
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Re:Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repai... by chewyland on Friday October 05, 2018 @04:06AM (#18146504)
As a MacBook owner MacOS feels like abandonware to me.

When I reboot into Bootcamp and Windows 10 I feel like I'm using a machine 10 years in the future.

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Re:Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repai... by zimpenfish on Friday October 05, 2018 @05:00AM (#18146705)
Whereas when I boot my games box into Windows 10 and it sits there saying "Applying updates" for 45 minutes before rebooting and then thrashing itself into unusability for another 45-60 minutes doing ... something ... I feel like I'm being trolled by MS.
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Re:Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repai... by consp on Friday October 05, 2018 @07:03AM (#18147146)
I have the same experience with the force upgrades of OSX (due to xcode). Download is big, require massive 21G of free space, takes ages to update on older MBPs, everything gets more sluggish after the update and crashes more often...
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Re:Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repai... by dep_b on Friday October 05, 2018 @07:53AM (#18147369)
That's just once per year?

Microsoft throws away all of your open work at least every month. NSDocument alone is 25% of the reason I stay with macOS.

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Re:Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repai... by H1Supreme on Friday October 05, 2018 @09:23AM (#18147873)
I haven't used XCode in a while, but I was always amazed when I had to download the entire, massive, application every update. Android Studio has fairly consistent updates that are around 150-500mb on average.
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Re:Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repai... by highace on Friday October 05, 2018 @08:30AM (#18147556)
You can turn this off. I haven't done an update in at least a year.
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Re:Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repai... by natch on Friday October 05, 2018 @09:01AM (#18147741)
Wow. So you don’t apply security patches? Or am I not understanding what you are saying?
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Re:Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repai... by rikkus on Saturday October 06, 2018 @06:21AM (#18154413)
And then proceeds to show you adverts
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Re:Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repai... by teh_klev on Friday October 05, 2018 @11:06AM (#18148699)
> The PC's were a nightmare (not in terms of the hardware, but because of the sofware) from a management and administration perspective. Primarily because of Windows.

That's a human skills problem, not a software problem. Managing a large fleet of Windows PC's is a solved problem if your sysadmins know Active Directory. There are also third party solutions if Active Directory isn't your bag (we used one at a previous company to manage a large fleet of Windows PC's and servers - its name escapes me at the moment).

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Re:Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repai... by sadmikerafles on Friday October 05, 2018 @05:28AM (#18146796)
In what world is OS X more manageable on a large scale than Windows, that's the reason it's used in every large business to start with.
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Re:Apple's Proprietary Software Locks Kill Independent Repai... by sgt on Monday October 08, 2018 @05:52AM (#18165909)
It's not large scale though. But if you have 50-100 fairly clued up users, macOS is better by an order of magnitude in terms of internal computer support tickets. The last people we had using Windows were struggling with all kinds of Windows-related issues and also the fact that Windows has bizarrely become terribly user-hostile. The UI is absolutely atrocious, in my opinion.
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