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Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by jnbiche on Thursday October 04, 2018 @09:31AM (#18139685)
> Either Apple and Amazon are lying or Bloomberg is wrong

Apple and Amazon are compelled to lie. It's a classified investigation and likely only cleared employees are aware of it, and they have to deny its existence or stand to lose their clearance (worth $$$).

Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by okket on Thursday October 04, 2018 @09:38AM (#18139741)
How can companies be forced to issue such press statements? They may be forced to give incomplete answers when asked, but these statements go far beyond answering questions.
Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by jnbiche on Thursday October 04, 2018 @09:41AM (#18139766)
The people issuing press statements are almost certainly out of the loop. And of course, no one with knowledge of the situation is going to step forward, given they have a strong incentive to stay silent.

I mean, think of your own company's PR team. If you've worked for a large company, you've likely had interaction with a PR team that was pretty ignorant about the inner workings of the company. Now, add to that the fact that this is a classified investigation being run by FBI counterintelligence, and interfacing only with cleared employees (none of whom work for the PR team).

Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by Illniyar on Thursday October 04, 2018 @09:50AM (#18139844)
You are a PR guy. A respected and big news agency puts out an article saying your company is involved in some secret stuff - stuff that you wouldn't know about.

Do you release a press release denying everything without asking the guys who are supposed to know about it? Would those guys say to you it's all fabricated and urge you to deny it or will they evade answering it (or even more likely they'll go up the chain)?

This is a CEO level incident.

Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by jnbiche on Thursday October 04, 2018 @09:59AM (#18139919)
> This is a CEO level incident.

And as the article describes, the CEOs were summoned to DC, briefed, and at that point almost certainly asked to keep the investigation under wraps.

Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by okket on Thursday October 04, 2018 @10:02AM (#18139948)
Issuing such press statements is the opposite of "keeping the investigation under wraps".
Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by snowwrestler on Thursday October 04, 2018 @04:12PM (#18143259)
Right, PR folks may not understand how all the stuff works in their company, but they sure as shit know which topics require senior approvals. That is basic self-preservation for them.
Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by seppin on Thursday October 04, 2018 @12:32PM (#18141379)
Their denials are very, very specific. Meaning those words can be true, and a blanket denial would be false.
Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by axoltl on Thursday October 04, 2018 @06:50PM (#18144381)
Please note that the US government cannot compel speech and - by extension - cannot compel anyone to lie.
Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by wnoise on Thursday October 04, 2018 @08:57PM (#18144894)
Of course it can. The methods it can do so legally are limited, and it has no "free floating" power to do so, but that doesn't mean much.
Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by sschueller on Thursday October 04, 2018 @11:44AM (#18140932)
When did the US turn into a dictatorial state? I thought the US was free country.