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Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by throwaway080383 on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @10:11AM (#18121830)
It's all relative. If minimum wage workers get their income doubled, but my income does not double, then they are doing better relative to me than they were before. And I do not expect my salary to double upon passing of such legislation.
Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by MereInterest on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @10:17AM (#18121894)
That's a ridiculously cynical way to view it. First, utility does not scale linearly with income. Second, this allows for greater economic efficiency, because fewer people will be caught in bad situations with an insurmountable hurdle to get out.

If you want to maintain your relative wealth, feudal times are great. The rest of us would rather increase absolute wealth.

Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by meko on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @11:00AM (#18122299)
All the previous poster is saying is that a minimum wage increase would not place that much upwards pressure on inflation, which is true.
Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by MereInterest on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @11:24AM (#18122531)
In that case, I grossly misinterpreted the tone of the comment, and apologize for it.

I (and baldfast) had interpreted throwaway080383's comment as implying that he will be worse off from this legislation, as the increase in minimum wage will result in inflation, leading to no effective change in inflation-adjusted minimum wage, but a strong decrease in his own inflation-adjusted minimum wage. This is the standard conservative viewpoint that I've seen, which is repeated frequently, and is why I reacted so strongly to it.

Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by throwaway080383 on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @11:39AM (#18122676)
Damn, yes I could see how my original comment would naturally be interpreted that way.

To be clear, what I meant to get across was that the wage increase was not going to be a no-op due to inflation or whatever; it will make those people's lives measurably better in the short-to-medium term because not everyone's wages will be doubled at the same time.

Yeah, technically, I will be slightly worse off in the short term because Amazon will cost a little more or my dollar will go slightly less far, but I'm perfectly fine with that if it means tens of thousands of families can now feed their kids or go to the hospital. In the long run, my hope is that those kids will be more productive/innovative, which is good for everyone.

Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by InitialLastName on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @11:18AM (#18122464)
> The rest of us would rather increase absolute wealth.

Some of us would be happy to just have enough money to do work we find productive for society, as opposed to what the market demands of us. Not everybody wants to ride the absolute wealth treadmill.

Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by TruthSHIFT on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @10:24AM (#18121966)
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Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by Applejinx on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @12:12PM (#18122967)
Fine with me… and I work for myself and make less than minimum wage.

But some of MY customers may end up more able to pay me. I have repeatedly seen a tight correlation betweeen how well I do, and labor share of the economy. If this is real then it'll benefit me, all the more so if it becomes a trend.

Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by refurb on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @11:36AM (#18122650)
Of course a minimum wage increase pushes all wages up.

If you were working at Amazon for $15/hr before this change and the other guy was working at $12/hr, but now makes $15/hr, wouldn't you want a raise?

Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by throwaway080383 on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @11:49AM (#18122756)
I'm saying it will not push my wages up. And that's a good thing.
Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by refurb on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @12:54PM (#18123425)
It might not push your wage up by much, but it does create upward pressure on wages in general.
Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by s73v3r_ on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @01:16PM (#18123628)
And why do you care? You're not doing worse than you were before.
Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by baldfat on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @10:22AM (#18121946)
Are you saying your salary is based on keeping the working poor? OR are you saying you think corporations and their investors deserve a low wage workforce that the government will take care of with your tax dollars? I find no logical sense other then your mad that people can make money for WORKING.

When people make $15 an hour they will need less government assistance. This will take away from corporate's profits, which has gone through the roof without an salary bumps the last 40 years.

Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by shawnz on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @10:29AM (#18122030)
I don't think they are saying anything like that. I think they are saying that a minimum wage increase would bring the lowest earners closer to the higher earners, rather than causing inflation across the board. So that's a good thing if you care about wealth inequality.
Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by baldfat on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @01:21PM (#18123680)
I think inflation is just what people on the conservative economic side like to always throw out. Inflation is the new Bogeyman - https://www.bworldonline.com/inflation-become-bogeyman/

Edit: After submitting for 1 minute The number one weapon against doing anything to help the working poor is that it will cause inflation. It's a hollow baseless argument.

Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by throwaway080383 on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @11:48AM (#18122745)
Yes, to be clear, I think raising the minimum wage and decreasing wealth inequality is a good thing, even if it marginally negatively affects me in the short term.
Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by meko on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @10:57AM (#18122265)
On hn you should always assume comments are in good faith and try to understand them from the best possible interpretation.
Re:Amazon raises minimum wage to $15 for all US employees by baldfat on Tuesday October 02, 2018 @04:45PM (#18125546)
Well I am trying to see the best possible interpretation. What is the best possible interpretation.

I think the poster didn't think of what it meant besides what only affects himself. I have noticed that is where all discussion ends, but it really is implementing that his bottom line is negatively affected if the working poor get higher wages.