Please keep partisan flamewar off HN. It incinerates everything it touches.

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The previous comment specifically says reading to make sure you are voting correctly even if you know how you are going to vote. Having voted in California, I can confirm it takes a sizable amount of time to check your ballot even when you have a cheat sheet with you.

Did you even read the comment you're replying to?

My fault, I missed

> even when you know how you will vote in advance.

I still think you missed the point, though... the point of the finding was that the hack takes less time alone with the machine than the average voter takes to vote.... therefore, a hacker won't arouse suspicion while they are doing the hack.

It doesn't matter if there are things a voter can do to speed up voting, it only matters that it still wouldn't be suspicious if someone was in the booth for 2 minutes.

Oh wow, did they really call it that?

I mean it's not wrong, the net neutrality debate is about deregulating the internet by the government so that the ISPs can regulate it. But you have to know what more freedom for ISPs can entail.

I mean if it was called Unlimited Gun Use Freedom it could be a name for legalized murder.

I totally made it up, but it's not far. For example, here in MO they put a ballot initiative titled "Right to Farm" on the ballot and advertised it as "we're protecting your right to farm! Standing up for the small family farmers!" when in reality it keeps people from having standing to sue a factory farm when runoff from a pig farm pollutes their land.

After California Prop 8 (vote for gay marriage! Where "yes" meant "prohibit it" and "no" meant "don't prohibit it") California adopted a measure where the AG has to verify that ballot measure titles are neutral.

The name of the prop actually wasn't confusing.

Initially it was called "California Marriage Protection Act", which is pretty common for anti-gay-marriage acts.

Later it was called "Eliminate Rights of Same Sex Couples to Marry". Which is 100% obvious.

Only people who lazily called it the "gay marriage prop" were confused.

Thanks! I looked it up and the rewriting of titles preceded prop 8, though the prop 8 folks litigated furiously (amusingly they claimed the new title was "inflammatory" when it was actually text taken from the question).

I remember people being confused about the polarity of the vote, but then again I remembered incorrectly that the title approval had been because of prop 8 so who knows.

It wasn't far from what the FCC called the repeal to net-neutrality: "Restoring Internet Freedom" Order - https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-releases-restoring-internet...

Right, you should do that, but not all voters have the means to research beforehand.

You can research at the library for free. You can ask other people's opinions for free. Newspapers are inexpensive and widely available. I'm sure there are other options I'm missing. Who doesn't have the means for free?

I'm willing to send you "Evicted" in ebook format if you email the address in my profile. That's the best way I can think of to share with you the experience of being dirt poor in America, and why the things you just listed are irrelevant to a massive swath of Americans.

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