Instead, I worked for seed stage startups with ambitious missions such as changing the world. Even some crazy ideas can get funding in US because today’s angels are used to be engineers of yesterday.
Germany is not there yet. The market here needs to evolve years to get there. For example, if I could get my startup funded and successfully exit, then the next generation startups could have better angel options as I’d be willing to invest in startups with crazy & ambitious goals.
If you are looking at it that way, you have only one company in Germany which is SAP.
Global companies have massively increased their presence here.
Google has a huge presence in Munich, notably including a chunk of the V8 developers. Apple has a large hardware team in Munich. Amazon Berlin is aggressively hiring for developers to work on AWS. If you're after SF style salaries go work for Google Zürich and take home €200k.
What I hear from recruitment firms is that "mediocre engineers move to Berlin and great ones to Zurich". Also, GetYourGuide has their core backend engineering staff still in Zurich, but marketing and sales in Berlin. One of the founders writes that in machine learning, artificial intelligence, and complex data analysis, there are more talents in Switzerland than in Berlin: https://www.handelszeitung.ch/unternehmen/getyourguide-chef-...
Switzerland is even more founder/investor-friendly than the US. Example: Capital gain tax is 0%, that means, if you start a company, and sell it (=shares usually surgue in value), you don't pay taxes on this gain. Also, no capital gain taxes need to be paid, if you buy a publicly listed stock/ETF and hold it for more than 6 months. (More in another thing I wrote: "Switzerland: How buying real-estate can kill you financially and reasons to go for stocks instead" - https://bit.ly/2xIe8ri). Despite the legal infrastructure, we still lack the "American" mentality to become a startup place, but for small businesses it's much better here than in Germany:
A friend of me once said: "Germany is a rich country of poor people". The system in Germany hates small businesses / freelancers and is optimized for conglomerates like Siemens or BMW. If you open a company, you immediately drown in red-tape and upfront taxes. As a comparison, in Switzerland you can just start issuing invoices without a tax-code or anything. Only after you reach a certain threshold, you need to have to inform the authorities during the same tax-year. Also after that, things are very reasonable and easy. My tech recruitment firm generates "normal revenue" and I still haven't gotten a tax-consultant because I can do taxes myself. If I have a question, I call the tax authorities and they help me / give "free advice", which shocks my German entrepreneur friends. There, the tax-authorities treat them as criminals, no support is given and one is triple-checked thoroughly that no taxes are evaded, which, of course, happens anyway especially because taxes are damn high. If you make median wage, it's 45%. In Switzerland median wage is taxed at ~17%. Also, tax-authorities treat taxpayers like clients, whom one is grateful to. That reflects in the simplicity of the tax code: In Germany, if you go for dinner with clients, you need to subtract and can't deduct the part from the bill which you consumed; in Switzerland, you just deduct the whole bill.
(Content marketing from here: If you are European and you want to move here, shoot me an email to [email protected]. I am well-connected in the local tech scene because I match programmers with jobs for a living.)
EDIT: it seems as if you edited your post heavily to add the notion of “content”
... So why should top notch talent move to Germany, if they can
move to Norway, the Netherlands or Switzerland where they earn
double or triple? ...
I wouldn't recommend moving to The Netherlands for the salaries. But there might be other reasons to move there.
I just left The Netherlands, working from Thailand now and while I earn about half of what I earned in The Netherlands as a freelance dev, I probably save more money in the long run due to lower (practically non-existant) taxation [1] and just a general lower cost of living (especially on the Thai countryside, where I live with my GF and daughter).
Oh, I also only work 4 days a week now instead of 5, so better quality of living.
I estimate that in The Netherlands my basic cost of living was probably around 2500 EUR a month (mortgage, food, insurance, commuting), but in Thailand for the 3 of us it's around 1000 EUR or so (we built a house here, so no housing costs).
P.S.: I don't work for a Thai company, I work remotely (currently for a US client) through my Seychelles offshore company [2].
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[0]: https://www.expatica.com/nl/finance/Tax-exemption-Dutch-30-p...
[1]: https://www.aesinternational.com/education-centre/taxes-for-...
[2]: https://www.sfm-offshore.com/seychellesoffshorecompany.html
I was recommending NL exactly because of the 30% tax exemption for 8 (!) years for foreigners who move to NL to work in tech and other "in demand" fields, which results in a very nice after-tax salaray. Without that, you're right, NL isn't that interesting financially.
That’s a dangerous thing though to push as a one-stop solution I think. There is huge advantages to work for one of these companies, but the drawbacks are also there, and they’re definitely not made for everyone
Furthermore, there are a lot of jobs that are being filled with engineers that don't really require an engineer. A good friend of mine is currently working for one of those companies, and his job mainly consists of building spreadsheets with risk models that are then passed on to, and mostly ignored by, the sales force. Needless to say, he's probably going to switch careers in the next few months.
For some people that is enough as long as they get paid at the end of the month, but if you actually want to do something, these companies are not the place for that.
meh, working with embedded hard-heads on experimental features for a car segment driven by oligarchs, CEOs, and mafiosos.
https://www.ingenieur.de/karriere/arbeitsleben/arbeitgeber/d...