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Re:Woman Rides Bicycle to 183.9 MPH, a New World Record by dvdkhlng on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @10:44PM (#18021272)
I think people are overestimating the merit of normal bicycle helmets. I think the actual effect is something like this ([1]):

> The most reliable estimates indicate that at speeds of up to 20 km/h helmets reduce the risk of head injury by 42%, the risk of brain injury by 53%, and the risk of facial injury by 17%, whereas they increase the risk of neck injury by 32%. These estimates are partly based on research carried out in countries like the United States and Australia, where standards for bicycle helmets are stricter than they are in Europe and can offer protection at higher impact speeds.

In wikipedia [2] I find this quote: "This effect is statistically significant in older studies. New studies, summarised by a random-effects model of analysis, indicate only a statistically non-significant protective effect"

And to the parents around here, make sure your kids know when to not wear a helmet (choking accidents [3])

[1] https://www.helmets.org/stats.htm#effectiveness

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_helmet#Effectiveness

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_helmet#Accidental_hang...

Re:Woman Rides Bicycle to 183.9 MPH, a New World Record by exDM69 on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @02:45AM (#18022242)
Bicycle helmet safety is one of those things that will never be accurately covered by statistics, because most cases where the helmet did its job don't end up in the stats as there are no significant injuries.

In the only serious bike accident I have been involved in, the victim would have walked home on their own feet had they worn a helmet. Instead, a fall from the bike on low speed and hitting their head on tarmac ended up in serious head injury and 6 months in the hospital.

Had they walked home, it would have not ended in the stats.

Re:Woman Rides Bicycle to 183.9 MPH, a New World Record by 725686 on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @09:09AM (#18023882)
+1 I once landed head first on a mountain bike going downhill. The helmet literally exploded in a million pieces. Walked away home unharmed. Didn't go in the stats.
Re:Woman Rides Bicycle to 183.9 MPH, a New World Record by nojvek on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @10:31AM (#18024421)
It was my third time snowboarding and the snow was compact and icy. I was going relatively fast for my control. Caught an edge and fell on my back with my head doing a whiplash. I was probably unconscious for 10 seconds or so. Lay there for another half a minute to gather myself and stood up. Checked the helmet, there was a massive crack. Checked head for bleeding. No bleeding! I walked away and went to the car to get some rest.

The helmet literally saved my life.

Re:Woman Rides Bicycle to 183.9 MPH, a New World Record by komali2 on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @11:18PM (#18021418)
I wonder if the neck injury thing is just because a "lesser than" injury is actually getting reported? I haven't seen anything in the article about it, but for example iirc there was this hullabaloo about motorcycle helmet data indicating an increase in back injuries for helmet-wearers, until someone pointed out that dead-on-site riders would be reported as simply "dead," with their injuries unaccounted for.
Re:Woman Rides Bicycle to 183.9 MPH, a New World Record by adrianN on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @04:06AM (#18022626)
The helmet sticks out a couple of centimeters and can increase torque if you don't fall straight down. It's plausible that it can cause more serious neck injuries.
Re:Woman Rides Bicycle to 183.9 MPH, a New World Record by abecedarius on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @10:05AM (#18024231)
I've always wondered why they're designed that way -- it looks like it's asking for trouble.
Re:Woman Rides Bicycle to 183.9 MPH, a New World Record by AstralStorm on Friday September 21, 2018 @02:40AM (#18037605)
A flat shell on front and back would not absorb a hit well if at all - and those are relatively common accidents.

Typical fall has the first contact either direct front or direct back based on kinematics which means they're subject to most force. Falling on side of head is somewhat more rare. Falling on top of the head is rare.

Re:Woman Rides Bicycle to 183.9 MPH, a New World Record by Filligree on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @07:32AM (#18023413)
That seems very likely. There was a similar effect for armoring airplanes in WW2, and giving soldiers helmets before then...

At least we usually figure it out. "More injuries because less deaths" is simple enough, I guess.

Re:Woman Rides Bicycle to 183.9 MPH, a New World Record by L_Rahman on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @11:20PM (#18021432)
The GP was most likely referring to motorcyclists riding without helmets.
Re:Woman Rides Bicycle to 183.9 MPH, a New World Record by TorKlingberg on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @04:13AM (#18022658)
> only a statistically non-significant protective effect

I don't think this phrasing makes sense. A particular study may find a positive effect but with p>0.05, but that depends as much on the size of the study as on the effect itself.

Re:Woman Rides Bicycle to 183.9 MPH, a New World Record by emodendroket on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @10:30AM (#18024412)
If I'm choosing I'd rather injure my neck than my brain.