Re:WeWork Backs Down on Employee Noncompete Requirements
by Nelkins on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:59PM
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My first job out of college was at a startup that focused on financial regulatory compliance.. I had no CS degree, barely knew how to program, and was generally a mediocre employee. I quit after five months and went to a company that offered a competing product (although I wasn't going to be working on it). The original company tried to sue me for violating my non-compete, and I almost lost that new job. Fortunately the new company negotiated on my behalf and I was transferred to a different company under the same corporate entity to wait out my non-compete.
This stuff happens, unfortunately.
Re:WeWork Backs Down on Employee Noncompete Requirements
by Fordrus on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:44PM
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The issue is that an extremely sensitive negotiation (interviewing and hiring process) is utterly disrupted by their presence, so nobody is in a good position to legally challenge them. If almost ANY non compete is in place, the potential employer is highly likely to make the decision not to bother with the candidate. Proving that it was because of the noncompete is difficult (making it difficult to prove real damages).
They would almost certainly fall apart in court, but the systems they disrupt don’t survive long enough to move them into court.
Re:WeWork Backs Down on Employee Noncompete Requirements
by jedberg on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:37PM
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It's not that they'd fall apart, it's the fact that you have to retain a lawyer to get a new job. Sure, you'll win eventually, but at what cost?
Re:WeWork Backs Down on Employee Noncompete Requirements
by yayana on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:46PM
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I've seen that stunt go to the point of pressuring a startup into a buyout. You need a lot of money and confidence to rely on courts.
Re:WeWork Backs Down on Employee Noncompete Requirements
by ericand on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:38PM
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Perhaps you are thinking of California? This is certainly true in California, but I've seen non-competes enforced in the tech sector elsewhere in the US (Seattle, Utah, etc).
Re:WeWork Backs Down on Employee Noncompete Requirements
by djsumdog on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:57PM
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California law goes as far as to state you can't have a non-compete agreement in the work contract at all. When I worked in Seattle, my contract had a non-compete that specifically said it didn't apply in California, and then the fucking staffing agency tried to tell me it wasn't a non-compete.
I called Bullshit! It explicitly excludes your California office! Don't try to lie to me!
Re:WeWork Backs Down on Employee Noncompete Requirements
by Latteland on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @01:47PM
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I am in exactly this situation working in Seattle for a Cali company.
Re:WeWork Backs Down on Employee Noncompete Requirements
by x0x0 on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:38PM
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I lost a job due to one. This was in NY. I had signed the offer and the new company's counsel withdrew the offer because of my current employer.
Re:WeWork Backs Down on Employee Noncompete Requirements
by devhead on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:42PM
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interested, how did they find out?
Re:WeWork Backs Down on Employee Noncompete Requirements
by x0x0 on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @04:00PM
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I provided my employment agreement to the new company when they asked for it.
Re:WeWork Backs Down on Employee Noncompete Requirements
by xeromal on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @02:27PM
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Probably put his previous job on his resume or they looked up his previous job using a credit reporting bureau
Re:WeWork Backs Down on Employee Noncompete Requirements
by Timmah on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @03:09PM
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Often it's just that the two companies are aware of each other's policies. If they've heard of Company B and know it has a non-compete they just reject you.
Re:WeWork Backs Down on Employee Noncompete Requirements
by BonesJustice on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @06:15PM
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Kind of weakens the argument for negotiating the non-compete clause(s) out of the contract. You might get screwed anyway if the hiring company assumes you had to sign one.
TIL: Non-compete clauses are the devil and actively screw people over.