Re:What Really Happened to Apple’s Airpower
by jwr on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @12:28PM
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I know a bit about wireless charging (I design&build electronic devices). When I first heard about the idea of a multi-device charging mat, my first thought was: how in the hell are they going to do that? I didn't think it merely difficult, I thought it wasn't possible at all.
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Re:What Really Happened to Apple’s Airpower
by TrainedMonkey on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @01:28PM
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They use multiple coils: "we can confirm is comprised of between 21 and 24 power coils".
Presumably they detect where the device is and engage an appropriate coil. Quick search on amazon found a few charging pads with multiple coils.
Re:What Really Happened to Apple’s Airpower
by jakobegger on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @03:07PM
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They use a grid of coils. By activating multiple adjacent coils, it behaves like one big coil. From a physics perspective it's really neat: the magnetic fields of opposing currents in adjacent wires should cancel. But the price you pay is that you have the charging current flowing through more length of wire, and more resistive losses (heat).
Re:What Really Happened to Apple’s Airpower
by toomuchtodo on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @07:27PM
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Phased array inductive charging. Fascinating!
Re:What Really Happened to Apple’s Airpower
by joombaga on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @02:36PM
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21-24 is a weird range
Re:What Really Happened to Apple’s Airpower
by tcfunk on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @03:07PM
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As someone who knows basically nothing about designing electronic devices, my initial thought is 3 rows of 7 coils or 3 rows of 8 coils? This wouldn't make it a range, though, so much as an either/or situation.
Re:What Really Happened to Apple’s Airpower
by jakobegger on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @03:08PM
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Would probably make more sense to choose some hexagonal pattern.
Re:What Really Happened to Apple’s Airpower
by tcfunk on Wednesday September 19, 2018 @11:58AM
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Oh, good point!
Re:What Really Happened to Apple’s Airpower
by Drdrdrq on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @02:42PM
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It's a weird design.
Re:What Really Happened to Apple’s Airpower
by pps on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @01:24PM
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But there already exists something like that https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Charger-JE-Charging-QI-Enabl...
Re:What Really Happened to Apple’s Airpower
by jclardy on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @01:28PM
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That is just three wireless chargers stacked next to each other. Apple's design was to have no required orientation or position, just drop it wherever on the mat, along with whatever other devices.
Re:What Really Happened to Apple’s Airpower
by pps on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @01:33PM
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Still, it is "multi-device charging mat" and if Apple could provide something like that their customers would be more than happy - I guess.
Re:What Really Happened to Apple’s Airpower
by wmeredith on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @01:08PM
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Could you expand on this?
Re:What Really Happened to Apple’s Airpower
by Terretta on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @04:05PM
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It's easy -- just use variable position wireless power transmitted through multiple cooperative flux generators!
I'd submitted https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17980168 a few days ago, links to a landing page for a white paper and presentation.
Direct link: https://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/technology/multiple-...