Re:Life in the Spanish city that banned cars
by calebh on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @11:26AM
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People buy cars with their worst case transportation requirement in mind. By moving car ownership to an external fleet, people will be free to only use the extra transportation capacity as needed. Why are we spending all of this energy to accelerate giant metal boxes when most of the trips in cars are only to get a person from point A to point B? It's incredibly inefficient. Self-driving cars and electric bikes are going to completely change the transportation paradigm inside of dense cities.
Re:Life in the Spanish city that banned cars
by oftenwrong on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @09:58AM
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You have to account for reduced cost of driving. Not just in dollar cost, but the cost of stress and driving time. This could lead to increased demand for car trips.
Re:Life in the Spanish city that banned cars
by claydavisss on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @08:39AM
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100% wrong....autonomous vehicles will result in vastly more cars on urban roads, idling or driving around in circles waiting to do profitable work...it will shortly become an epidemic requiring congestion legislation
think about it....if you set up an autonomous ride sharing service, your path to profitability lies in having cars closer to prospective riders. so it makes total sense to put as many cars on the road as possible....it's not like there is a person driving who must be compensated or fed
Re:Life in the Spanish city that banned cars
by Fricken on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @09:08AM
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There isn't really much political will to mitigate car dependency and curb sprawl, but if hypothetically there were, it would still take half a century of concerted effort to reshape our cities into something a little less dystopian, and in that meantime autonomous vehicles would be very effective for shuttling people between their homes and major transportation hubs, because busses on feeder routes just don't work very well out in the burbs.
Re:Life in the Spanish city that banned cars
by jandrewrogers on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @09:47AM
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This has been modeled and studied extensively by the car companies to understand market sizing in a fully autonomous world. Everything points to a rather dramatic reduction (integer factor) in the number of cars on the streets, which needless to say is a dire outlook for those businesses.
Re:Life in the Spanish city that banned cars
by hfdgiutdryg on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @11:58AM
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The Segway was banned from San Francisco sidewalks almost immediately upon release. You really think NIMBYs are going to sit quiet as the streets fill up with empty cars circling like sharks?
Re:Life in the Spanish city that banned cars
by lallysingh on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @09:09AM
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As many cars as concurrent rides the market demands. There's always an upper limit.
Of course, even though they have these two advantages, they will still pollute(if not electric, and even so because they must transport more mass than say a scooter, and the electricity still needs to be generated at an external power plant) and create noise pollution and they also need to use traffic lanes and road-infrastructure.