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Re:Apple now strives to design and build products that last ... by badpun on Monday September 17, 2018 @08:58AM (#18005472)
It shows that sustainability is not even an afterthought. Everybody is ok with throwing away perfectly working devices (i.e. devices that were blazing fast just a couple years ago and now, with some crippling os updates, take 10 seconds to open a PDF) just because they're 3-5 years old. Let's see if Apple really does change their policy on this. For premium, very expensive phones, it would be reasonable for them to be fully functional (with no slowdowns) for at least 5 years.
Re:Apple now strives to design and build products that last ... by grzm on Monday September 17, 2018 @09:18AM (#18005630)
Would you care to provide information about how Apple compares with others in the industry?
Re:Apple now strives to design and build products that last ... by badpun on Monday September 17, 2018 @11:10AM (#18006635)
I don't have this information. However, IMO the current Apple's approach suits a vendor of $300 phones, not $1000+ ones. If Apple really wanted to be the technologic leader in this field, the gigantic markup and the billions of dollars that they make on phones should be funneled into engineering excellence (stability, security, performance, device longevity) and not gimmicks (face recognition). Unfortunately, it seems that the market does not demand engineering excellence even from premium products.
Re:Apple now strives to design and build products that last ... by saagarjha on Monday September 17, 2018 @11:49AM (#18007021)
I'm pretty sure the parent comment wanted you to talk about Android, where vendors ending software support and updates before the phone is even bought is the norm.
Re:Apple now strives to design and build products that last ... by badpun on Monday September 17, 2018 @01:14PM (#18007819)
If they’re cheap, then it’s somewhat expected that they are crap. Not so for expensive phones (if what you described is the case for expensive Android phones as well, then of course they’re even worse than Apple).
Re:Apple now strives to design and build products that last ... by saagarjha on Monday September 17, 2018 @01:26PM (#18007939)
Many flagships get one major update or so.
Re:Apple now strives to design and build products that last ... by vesak on Tuesday September 18, 2018 @01:38AM (#18012739)
You have no idea what you're talking about, or you're maliciously spreading a lie. Apple consistently keeps old devices running, and running well, on old hardware.

Of the competition, only some environments running on Linux/BSD kinda manages to do the same. Android is just laughable in comparison.

Re:Apple now strives to design and build products that last ... by rimliu on Monday September 17, 2018 @09:39AM (#18005805)

  > Everybody is ok with throwing away
  > perfectly working devices
People do that? All the iPhones I ever owned were passed on to someone. The oldest are not in the useable state right now I guess, but I hope they were given for recycling not just thrown away.
Re:Apple now strives to design and build products that last ... by dagw on Monday September 17, 2018 @09:58AM (#18005955)
I don't know about throwing away, but I certainly know several people who have a drawer full of old smartphones they're never going to use again.
Re:Apple now strives to design and build products that last ... by ceejayoz on Monday September 17, 2018 @11:22AM (#18006772)
You might encourage them to reach out to a domestic violence shelter or something. Plenty of folks would be ecstatic to have an old smartphone.