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Re:Leaving Apple and Google: /e/ first beta by addicted on Friday September 14, 2018 @03:16PM (#17990042)
Why aren’t companies like Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook not setting aside a few million dollars a year to support efforts like this and the Firefox phone?

Heck, even the carriers would be so much better off if they spent some money on similar projects. They don’t need to spend too much, and if one of them takes off, especially if it’s open source, then it helps reduce the tremendous risks they face since the mobile OS market is currently completely owned by 2 of their competitors.

Re:Leaving Apple and Google: /e/ first beta by AgentME on Friday September 14, 2018 @04:48PM (#17990806)
I assume because it would be competition against any future phone OS from Microsoft, Amazon, or Facebook.
Re:Leaving Apple and Google: /e/ first beta by vilaca on Friday September 14, 2018 @03:18PM (#17990057)
Microsoft is in the phone business too.
Re:Leaving Apple and Google: /e/ first beta by Sileni on Friday September 14, 2018 @03:25PM (#17990120)
Still? I thought they had spun off their mobile hardware division and were instead mostly focusing on mobile software. Would make some sense for them to try to do the same thing they did with PCs and IBM back in the day, since the OS is already open source (mostly).
Re:Leaving Apple and Google: /e/ first beta by mikhailt on Friday September 14, 2018 @04:06PM (#17990508)
The rumors are they're still doing one last ditch, Surface Phone due to the growing Surface ecosystem that is making them money and people liking it so far.

However, they're not going to release that until they finish the CShell that they're working on the past several years.

Re:Leaving Apple and Google: /e/ first beta by macintux on Friday September 14, 2018 @04:34PM (#17990703)
Is Surface making money or just stemming the bleeding?
Re:Leaving Apple and Google: /e/ first beta by et2o on Saturday September 15, 2018 @02:24PM (#17995427)
Microsoft is doing pretty well financially. MSFT stock is up 50% ($75-->$113) YTD.
Re:Leaving Apple and Google: /e/ first beta by bunderbunder on Friday September 14, 2018 @03:29PM (#17990156)
Sort of. They're in the process of exiting the market.

No new phones being manufactured as of about a year ago, and support is ending at the end of next year.

Re:Leaving Apple and Google: /e/ first beta by amelius on Friday September 14, 2018 @03:54PM (#17990388)
Yes that's why they said "2". (Google is in the spyware market, hence cannot be taken seriously).
Re:Leaving Apple and Google: /e/ first beta by faag36 on Friday September 14, 2018 @03:24PM (#17990111)
They gave up on mobile years ago. Both hw and sw.
Re:Leaving Apple and Google: /e/ first beta by iwaffles on Friday September 14, 2018 @03:42PM (#17990267)
Not entirely true. They shifted focus on mobile to continue making mobile software for other OSes.
Re:Leaving Apple and Google: /e/ first beta by faag36 on Friday September 14, 2018 @03:46PM (#17990304)
We were talking about Windows Phone, not Outlook for iOS or stuff like that.
Re:Leaving Apple and Google: /e/ first beta by rijoja on Friday September 14, 2018 @03:53PM (#17990382)
Which makes it interesting for them to have an OS that won't lock particular software out in a play akin to what MS is trying to to to Valve by using their monopoly, a dogmatic Richard Stallman approach to this would ironically save them from that.