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Re:EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ ... by untog on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @06:12PM (#17973935)
Does the EU have a problem with wealthy donors? I've heard this criticism levelled against US politicians and it's justified, but in this case I think it might just be sheer ignorance on the part of the EU legislators.
Re:EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ ... by mcv on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @09:16PM (#17975109)
Not in the same way as in the US, and I don't think campaign contributions are a thing, at least not at the same level as in the US.

But there are many, many lobbyists active in the EU, and some of them have a surprising amount of influence over politicians. There has even been a case where two different parties, independently from each other, introduced the exact same bill, which had been written by a lobbyist.

Re:EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ ... by int_19h on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @11:06PM (#17975644)
What leverage do they use for lobbying, if campaign contributions are off the tables?
Re:EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ ... by jeremyt on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @11:32PM (#17975759)
Bribery. I'm only half joking.

There's lots of dark international money slushing around out there that happens to make it into someone's wife's friend's company.

Re:EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ ... by cmsefton on Thursday September 13, 2018 @01:49AM (#17976359)
Re:EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ ... by sosborn on Thursday September 13, 2018 @01:07AM (#17976207)
The art of lobbying doesn't have anything to do with contributions. They will typically donate equally to all viable candidates and sitting politicians to avoid becoming anyone's enemy.

The leverage they use is their relationships with other politicians to engage in vote trading.

Re:EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ ... by klmr on Thursday September 13, 2018 @08:31AM (#17978041)
They are still (ostensibly) the subject matter experts so politicians defer to them. This in itself isn’t a problem: they should defer to experts on complex matters. And often these experts are organised in industry interest groups. The problem arises when opposing view-points are downplayed.

In the current case this is done because the industry interest groups backing the legislation are predominantly European content rights owners. Whereas the interest groups opposing the legislation appear mostly organised by non-EU groups, and therefore thus are less of a concern for EU legislators, and potentially don’t have the same kind of immediate access to them.

Re:EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ ... by SZJX on Sunday September 16, 2018 @10:22AM (#17999062)
The politicians are still very well connected with the industry. For example there was somebody who retired from the EU Commission a while ago and immediately went to the board of a company or something. The same shit as in the US just a bit less extreme.
Re:EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ ... by adrianratnapala on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @06:52PM (#17974239)
Everywhere has this phenomenon in some guise, it's only the US that's self absorbed enough to think it is unique.
Re:EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ ... by anigbrowl on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @07:39PM (#17974576)
That's essentially a religious argument. Please provide evidence for your claim.
Re:EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ ... by antidesitter on Thursday September 13, 2018 @12:32PM (#17979910)
> That's essentially a religious argument.

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Re:EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ ... by TylerE on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @09:13PM (#17975085)
Corporations exist
Re:EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ ... by anigbrowl on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @10:22PM (#17975438)
That's not much of an argument. Have a nice day.
Re:EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ ... by fetbaffe on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @06:28PM (#17974062)
Don’t know how common it is, but it has happened

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_cash_for_influence_scan...

Re:EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ ... by int_19h on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @11:07PM (#17975649)
That's outright bribery. Lobbying usually implies that it's legal.
Re:EU approves internet copyright law, including ‘link tax’ ... by ionised on Thursday September 13, 2018 @04:32AM (#17976985)
Not quite as brazenly corrupt as it is in the US but it is still a huge problem.