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Re:FDA to Ban Juul, Flavored E-Cigarettes If Industry Doesn'... by draw_down on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @10:30AM (#17969118)
Pathetic. But not surprising; the moral panic around kids vaping has been building for a while now.
Re:FDA to Ban Juul, Flavored E-Cigarettes If Industry Doesn'... by gnulinux on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @10:47AM (#17969287)
It's not a moral panic, in the sense that people don't like kids smoking. It's a public health issue. Juul is bad for kids' health, it causes similar problems as cigarettes, even though it's relatively safe. [1] You can't sell cigarette replacements in 2018, half the price, in a nice package, deceiving kids who have absolutely no idea what the heck they're doing, and expect to profit legally and morally from this.

[1]: https://news.psu.edu/story/527326/2018/07/03/impact/medical-...

Re:FDA to Ban Juul, Flavored E-Cigarettes If Industry Doesn'... by glitchc on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @10:44AM (#17969256)
It's not moral panic. Vaping is just as harmful as smoking. Combustion is still the main chemical reaction, and the resultant compounds are just as toxic. They only smell nicer.
Re:FDA to Ban Juul, Flavored E-Cigarettes If Industry Doesn'... by itdaniher on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @10:54AM (#17969367)
> Combustion is still the main chemical reaction

Please do some research! This is blatantly false. Combustion is not involved in vaping, and boiling is not a chemical reaction!

It's very easy to find peer reviewed medical studies showing vape compounds are considerably healthier than cigarette smoke.

30 sec of googling shows https://doi.org/10.3390/ijerph10105146 amongst the relevant docs.

Re:FDA to Ban Juul, Flavored E-Cigarettes If Industry Doesn'... by refurb on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @10:55AM (#17969381)
This runs contrary to everything I've read. Vaping is much less harmful than smoking. Vaping does not rely on combustion but rather vaporization. The resulting compounds aren't just as toxic.

Did you just make that up?

Re:FDA to Ban Juul, Flavored E-Cigarettes If Industry Doesn'... by rileyphone on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @11:04AM (#17969484)
While there isn't much research on long term effects of vaping, there are a lot of studies which examine the parts of vapor and almost all, especially when testing under normal conditions, find that they contain much less of the carcinogens that normal cigs do precisely because they aren't combusted.

See https://www.gov.uk/government/news/e-cigarettes-around-95-le...

Re:FDA to Ban Juul, Flavored E-Cigarettes If Industry Doesn'... by function_seven on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @10:52AM (#17969346)
There’s no evidence of this. Everything I’ve read indicates that vaping is likely (and dramatically) less harmful. The levels of toxins are orders of magnitude lower or nonexistent in vapor.

Also, there’s no combustion when liquid-based nicotine solution is atomized.

Re:FDA to Ban Juul, Flavored E-Cigarettes If Industry Doesn'... by glitchc on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @10:59AM (#17969429)
I grant that vaporization occurs at a lower temperature than combustion, but it is still a chemical reaction that relies on a heating element. Proponents of e-cigs have always argued that this makes e-cigs safer, and it does not produce the same compounds that yobacco burning does. What is not clear is whether the compounds produced are safer.
Re:FDA to Ban Juul, Flavored E-Cigarettes If Industry Doesn'... by itdaniher on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @11:01AM (#17969461)
Vaporization (boiling) is not a chemical reaction.