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Re:Microsoft intercepting Firefox, Chrome installation on Wi... by scarface74 on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @10:24AM (#17969067)
Office 365 and Adobe’s subscription offering seem to be doing well.
Re:Microsoft intercepting Firefox, Chrome installation on Wi... by techntoke on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @11:09AM (#17969534)
When you have a company wining/dining and paying kickbacks, or when Microsoft hires erotic dancers for their events, then the top executives with no technical knowledge are happy to sign multi-year contracts that lock them into those vendors... if they don't, then Microsoft can always release their blackmail files.
Re:Microsoft intercepting Firefox, Chrome installation on Wi... by com2kid on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @12:12PM (#17970225)
> or when Microsoft hires erotic dancers for their events,

I worked at MS for a long time. I can say that sort of stuff hasn't happened for quite awhile, and people involved in it happening were fired, some of them rather publicly.

Now days, expense reports are gone over very carefully. Everyone at Microsoft attends yearly ethics training, which covers all manner of topics, including what is and is not acceptable to do to win sales.

Realistically, when it comes to cloud based productivity systems, the choices are Microsoft or Google.

> then the top executives with no technical knowledge are happy to sign multi-year contracts that lock them into those vendors

Any half decent company is going to have at least a CTO in charge of these decisions. The CTO should have multiple people working for them that are capable of making engineering decisions.

If a company sends a bunch of non-technical people to a technical presentation to make a technical decision, that is the company's fault.

Re:Microsoft intercepting Firefox, Chrome installation on Wi... by jenscow on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @05:39PM (#17973669)
> Everyone at Microsoft attends yearly ethics training

It must be a toxic environment, working with people who needed to be continuously trained on how to be ethical.

Good on them for trying to do something about it, however.

Re:Microsoft intercepting Firefox, Chrome installation on Wi... by pjmlp on Thursday September 13, 2018 @02:12AM (#17976420)
Such regular trainings are quite common at many Fortune 500.
Re:Microsoft intercepting Firefox, Chrome installation on Wi... by dave7 on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @01:38PM (#17971111)
> I worked at MS for a long time. I can say that sort of stuff hasn't happened for quite awhile, and people involved in it happening were fired, some of them rather publicly.

2016 isn't that long ago, and that's just one that was badly-judged enough to have made the news:

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-03-18-microsoft-gdc-...

Re:Microsoft intercepting Firefox, Chrome installation on Wi... by com2kid on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @01:53PM (#17971241)
And people internally were shocked at the stupidity of that event being put on.

The overall feeling inside MS at the time was "wow, that was stupid, hasn't that team being paying attention to how the industry has been changing?"

An even more formal policy change was then sent out, reminding people of dumb stuff they aren't supposed to do.

Re:Microsoft intercepting Firefox, Chrome installation on Wi... by vetinari on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @05:10PM (#17973366)
Are they also shocked by stuff like this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_licensing_corruption...

It was nothing in-your-face like strippers, but still pretty immoral.

Re:Microsoft intercepting Firefox, Chrome installation on Wi... by SmellyGeekBoy on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @11:21AM (#17969646)
Pardon? I have Office 365 and Adobe subscriptions and have never been blackmailed or signed a multi-year contract.
Re:Microsoft intercepting Firefox, Chrome installation on Wi... by techntoke on Wednesday September 12, 2018 @12:02PM (#17970134)
That's good. Do you have over 1000 accounts?