Re:Meet the busser who’s worked at the same pancake house fo...
by justin66 on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @01:47PM
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The guy still buys a lottery ticket, so I just assume that he'd find your original statement, "money definitely does not make people any happier," just as naive as most people would.
A person can be content with what they have and still find value (happiness, even!) in having more, for a variety of reasons that don't involve naked greed or avarice. It's extremely strange that anyone needs to have this explained to them.
Re:Meet the busser who’s worked at the same pancake house fo...
by overcast on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @02:04PM
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You're going off on tangents and picking apart context unnecessarily. What does the insistence on reiterating that he still buys lottery tickets? So what? I've bought a few, and I don't have any money issues, it's fun to take a chance! We all have our vices, rich and poor still gamble. I piss away money on expensive cocktails because they are delicious. So what have it? If I couldn't afford them, it's not going to be a detriment to my happiness. The discussion isn't about whether having more will make anyone more or less happy, it's whether people are content with the lives they have now. Do they want an iPhone? Possibly. Are the happy without ever getting one? Probably. Would it be awesome owning a 30 million dollar mansion on a secluded beach front property? Heck yes! Am I less happy because I don't? No! Geez, lighten up!
Re:Meet the busser who’s worked at the same pancake house fo...
by justin66 on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @02:15PM
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> The discussion isn't about whether having more will make anyone more or less happy
This thread of discussion literally began because you wrote "Money definitely does not make people any happier."
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Re:Meet the busser who’s worked at the same pancake house fo...
by overcast on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @04:03PM
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Nick, are you this miserable / condescending in your daily life and with clients? Or just when you preach to strangers on public forums? I ignored your last response, because you don't seem to be a happy person, despite all of the adversity you've overcome in your life. There are many happy people in this world less fortunate than yourself, I hope you find some peace.
Re:Meet the busser who’s worked at the same pancake house fo...
by dang on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @09:08PM
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Please don't cross into personal attack, regardless of how bad you consider another comment.
Re:Meet the busser who’s worked at the same pancake house fo...
by CPLX on Tuesday September 04, 2018 @04:53PM
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The discussion started when you projected your own thoughts and biases into the faces of people in developing countries that you don't really know, and assumed they don't actually want the financial advantages you enjoy.
Now you've projected similarly onto me, who you also don't know, and decided I'm not a happy person.
In both cases, of course, you actually have no idea how happy the people you're interacting with are, or are not.
When you come to realize that you'll perhaps have gained a little bit of humility and empathy. Those will serve you well in discussions such as these.
From the article, it sounds like Loggan is exactly that. Never complains. Never asked for a promotion. Content with what he has.
“He could retire now,” said Javon Chambers, his grandson, himself a Walker Bros. busser for 15 years. “He’s financially straight and everything. I just think he knows when people retire, they die. That’s what he’s said: Old people don’t have nothing to do, they see their friends retire, and then they retire, and that’s when they die of boredom too. It’s like people who are married a long time — if one dies, the next goes right after. That’s like my grandfather and this place. He doesn’t want the will inside him to dry up.”
Ambition, in a time of low expectations, in a country defined by inequality, can mean holding on to what you have, internalizing your place in the world. “I think Loggan wanted to fit in somewhere,” said chef Pat Levy, also known as “Popeye”; he has worked at the restaurant 42 years, arriving in Chicago from Jamaica. “I think Loggan just decided to be a busboy. He is content. It’s all he wants. So I ask — isn’t that OK?”
For instance, the company took out life insurance on Loggan (payable to his wife); Ray says that for years he’s set aside about $50 a month for Loggan, as an informal retirement fund (subject to a 30 percent penalty for early withdrawal).