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Re:The legend of Benin’s fearless female warriors by Cyph0n on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @12:01AM (#17856476)
> 2-3M deaths over 300 years

It's not just about the deaths, but also about the suffering and degradation spanning generations, for the sole purpose of making "superior people" more money.

I have no clue whatsoever about how much Africans suffered under slavery, but I would think that some would prefer death to watching their offspring born into slavery and ultimately die as slaves.

Re:The legend of Benin’s fearless female warriors by BadassFractal on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @12:10AM (#17856496)
> It's not just about the deaths, but also about the suffering and degradation spanning generations, for the sole purpose of making "superior people" more money.

Absolutely, I don't see anybody making the claim that slavery is wonderful, and devoid of suffering and degradation for generations to come. Maybe the folks walking around with tiki torches, but, let's be real. You and I, and most of Hacker News interlocutors are not spending much time around that crowd day-in and day-out, so we can all safely assume nobody is advocating for that here.

The fact however is that slavery has been with us, as a species, for the entirety of our recorded history, and is still alive and well as of today, in one form or another. As horrible as the Atlantic slave trade has been for centuries, we can learn more history, transcend a US-centric, exceptionalist world view, and realize that what we're talking about was not an isolated, special and rare phenomenon, never seen before, or that never happened again since.

Re:The legend of Benin’s fearless female warriors by pvg on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @01:06AM (#17856641)
what we're talking about was not an isolated, special and rare phenomenon, never seen before, or that never happened again since.

We pretty much are. And a lot of this weird ahistorical 'contrarian' message board stuff about slavery might not seem like marching with torches but it tends to originate from the same places - as a way to rationalize and recruit for the ideology of the marchers. It's a sell job, not some clear-eyed, unflinching take on history as the people who tend to repeat this stuff often appear to think.

Re:The legend of Benin’s fearless female warriors by spangry on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @02:28AM (#17856930)
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery :

The history of slavery spans many cultures, nationalities, and religions from ancient times to the present day. However the social, economic, and legal positions of slaves were vastly different in different systems of slavery in different times and places.

Slavery can be traced back to the earliest records, such as the Mesopotamian Code of Hammurabi (c. 1860 BC), which refers to it as an established institution, and it was common among ancient people...

Although slavery is no longer legal anywhere in the world (with the exception of penal labour), human trafficking remains an international problem and an estimated 25-40 million people are enslaved today, the majority in Asia.

Slavery is absolutely ubiquitous across both time and cultures.

Re:The legend of Benin’s fearless female warriors by pvg on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @11:10AM (#17859377)
And?
Re:The legend of Benin’s fearless female warriors by BadassFractal on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @01:59AM (#17856836)
If it's ahistorical, you have the option to provide evidence to the contrary that disproves the facts stated above.

Instead what I'm seeing is ad-hominem bigoteering that attempts to ascribe bad faith, nefarious motives to someone even bringing up historical facts that can be looked up by anybody with access to the web or a library.

Re:The legend of Benin’s fearless female warriors by hyumin on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @08:59AM (#17858443)
Thoroughly enjoying how this thread about female warriors in an ancient kingdom devolved into a historical revisionism thread about the european slave trade
Re:The legend of Benin’s fearless female warriors by pvg on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @02:19AM (#17856903)
No, I'm not ascribing bad faith, I don't know if you're a racist-apologist, or (as I tend to assume) just message-board-fashionably ignorant or something else. And you are right, access to the web or a library will show you that no serious historians of the African slave trade sit around comparing it to the Soviet Gulags or claim it does not stand out as a phenomenon against the many other examples of slavery throughout history. Nobody does that because it's obviously silly, even in the most punctiliously charitable interpretation.
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Re:The legend of Benin’s fearless female warriors by pvg on Tuesday August 28, 2018 @02:13AM (#17856876)
They aren't factual claims. I'm not expressing some controversial opinion, it's the consensus view. Whereas you've written me a giant wall of condescending, name-calling text. So I think we're good.