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Re:End Stock Buybacks, Save the Economy? by nemo44x on Thursday August 23, 2018 @07:21PM (#17831408)
Many are qualified dividends so they are taxed as long term capital gains if you’ve held the stock for at least 60 days. If you are wealthy and don’t draw an ordinaryincome then this also means your tax rate is 0% on your qualified dividends.
Re:End Stock Buybacks, Save the Economy? by sokoloff on Thursday August 23, 2018 @07:31PM (#17831481)
Only on the first ~$77K worth, which is probably less than the annual dividend plus capital gains income for a wealthy person.
Re:End Stock Buybacks, Save the Economy? by gnicholas on Thursday August 23, 2018 @07:29PM (#17831464)
> * If you are wealthy and don’t draw an ordinary income then this also means your tax rate is 0% on your qualified dividends.*

Really? I thought qualified dividends were taxed at the same rate as long term capital gains. This is zero for very low-income taxpayers, but certainly not "wealthy" ones, like you describe. Or perhaps I'm missing something?

Re:End Stock Buybacks, Save the Economy? by toast0 on Thursday August 23, 2018 @08:03PM (#17831675)
There's a difference between high income and wealthy. If you're wealthy, and you retire, you may not have a current ordinary income, so that any LCTG is all within the 0% rate; if your total taxable income is less than $38,600 for single filers, or $77,200 for joint filers; in connection with the standard deduction of $12k or $24k. If you make assume no other income, that's just about $50k or $100k of untaxed LTCG, in addition to whatever returned capital you need to spend.

The trick is somehow the popular media has changed the word wealthy to mean high income instead of, you know, having wealth.

Re:End Stock Buybacks, Save the Economy? by gnicholas on Thursday August 23, 2018 @08:27PM (#17831805)
I'm aware of the distinction between wealthy and high-income (was a tax lawyer in a former life). I was objecting to the if-then in the prior post that said: if you're wealthy and don't have OI, then your dividend rate is 0. This is not true. It is only true for the first chunk of income, as you note.

Also, this is equally true for LTCG, so in the context of this discussion (qualified dividends versus buybacks, which increase LTCG), it doesn't move the needle one way or the other.