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Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by smiler on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @03:34AM (#1782626)
What is horrible about it? It doesn't get in your way and allows you to post quickly. This is the only place I've engaged in online conversation for years and that's because it's just so quick and simple. Compared to forums and commenting on blogs & entering captcha's it's very usable!
Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by swombat on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @03:49AM (#1782654)
How often have you mis-clicked on an down arrow instead of an up arrow (or vice versa)?

Have you ever asked someone who's not a regular to upvote something? That's obviously not something that should be done (but I guess we all sin sometimes... call it a wild unruly youth), but if you do, you'll find that most people don't even see the voting arrows, let alone figure out what they mean.

If advanced users still make fairly critical usage errors because of small, opposite buttons right next to each other, and newbies can't learn the fundamentals of the interface, i'd say that makes it fairly bad.

On the other hand, as I said, it keeps the barbarians out.

Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by bendmorris on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @04:39AM (#1782730)
Maybe that improves the results. Your score is not a straight up vote from everyone, it's just a sampling from the subset of HN users that can figure out what the buttons do.
Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by dejb on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @07:30AM (#1782973)
> it's just a sampling from the subset of HN users that can figure out what the buttons do

Or those who don't experience layout problems. Often there is a significant part of the down arrow that results in an upvote or vice versa. Generally happens in FF for me. I feel like I need to check the URL before clicking.

Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by simonft1 on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @11:21AM (#1783690)
Why do some people have down arrows?
Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by grayrest on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @12:49PM (#1783999)
You gain the ability to downvote once you've crossed a certain karma threshold.
Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by smiler on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @04:53AM (#1782758)
I can use my mouse, I haven't managed to misclick once.
Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by billswift on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @03:48AM (#1782652)
I like most of the HN interface. The one part I really hate is that when you click the Reply button, most of the context you are replying to, excepting only the direct parent comment, disappears. This is really irritating, and HN is the ONLY site that I visit that does this.
Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by smiler on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @04:54AM (#1782759)
I would agree on that point. Yes, that is my one annoyance.
Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by loumf on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @07:50AM (#1783003)
That might be on purpose. The HN commenting interface is meant to discourage back-and-forth arguments.
Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by billswift on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @01:54PM (#1784243)
The problem is that it makes it hard to summarize a set of arguments; for example, to focus on points of agreement or disagreement. Which I think tends to encourage back-and-forth arguments.
Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by Zev on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @03:47AM (#1782645)
Have you ever tried using HN on a mobile device?

I've been tempted to hack up yet another iOS app for HN, but A. I don't have the time to do it in what i would call the Right Way(tm) -- or a Hacked-Up Way(tm) either and B. it would really be better off as a separate style than a separate app.

Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by smiler on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @04:53AM (#1782757)
Yes. I have a Nokia E51, it's just a standard T9 phone with wifi / 3g, as I don't need anything fancy. I've loaded HN on it and can skim the articles for anything interesting when I'm out and about. True I wouldn't write a comment, but it works fine for me for what I need.
Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by AdamGibbins on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @03:16PM (#1784525)
I often browse HN on my android phone (as I am now) with no problems. Page automatically resizes to fit the screen, works nicely.
Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by J3L2404 on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @05:19AM (#1782789)
I use http://ihackernews.com for mobile and it is very readable. The same developer wrote ViewText, which is a nice readability bookmarklet.
Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by jarin on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @04:28AM (#1782716)
Take a look at your settings page sometime. Would you have any idea what notifo, showdead, noprocrast, maxvisit, minaway, and delay meant if you didn't look them up or goof around until you figure out what they do?
Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by smiler on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @04:51AM (#1782754)
I haven't really looked at them no - I guess I haven't needed to because it just works?
Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by AdamTReineke on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @12:30PM (#1783936)
New HN user here, and I still have no clue. I even looked for mouseover text. :-(
Re:Ask HN: What are the websites that you rely on but have h... by araneae on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @11:12AM (#1783658)
Yeah, I learned my lesson from randomly putting high numbers in there :(