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Re:IE 8 is the new IE 6 by pavel_lishin on Monday October 11, 2010 @07:00PM (#1781651)
Not to mention that IE's turn-around time will almost always be longer than, for instance, Firefox's, or Chrome's, etc., since Microsoft is inherently less flexible than the others.

Oh, and don't forget that a lot of proprietary corporate apps are written to work ONLY in IE6. I wonder if a "legacy" mode for new versions of IE would alleviate part of this problem. (And yeah, I know that there's a big fat bag of poisonous acid-spitting kitten-eating snakes that this would open up.)

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Re:IE 8 is the new IE 6 by Joeri on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @09:28AM (#1783246)
The legacy mode is exactly the problem. They have an IE7 legacy mode in IE9, so upgrading once you are on IE7 or up is generally not that big of a deal. I still fail to recognize any other reason than corporate decision making for why IE8 didn't have an IE6 legacy mode. I can understand they didn't understand the issues when they released IE7, but by the time IE8 got shipped they should have known better.
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Re:IE 8 is the new IE 6 by jaspero on Monday October 11, 2010 @07:05PM (#1781659)
Firefox and Chrome would have the same fate, if they are as widely used as Windows/IE and comes default with an OS(Windows killer), like IE.
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Re:IE 8 is the new IE 6 by pavel_lishin on Monday October 11, 2010 @07:08PM (#1781666)
Which fate? Slow release cycles, or apps written specifically for a single browser?
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Re:IE 8 is the new IE 6 by jaspero on Monday October 11, 2010 @07:14PM (#1781678)
Fate as in, if Mozilla came up with a Windows-killer OS and all the Windows user moved to the new Mozilla OS. Than people will be stuck with FF 3.6, even after 10 years from now.
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Re:IE 8 is the new IE 6 by heimidal on Monday October 11, 2010 @08:23PM (#1781819)
There is no evidence to support this assertion.

The new auto-upgrade model Mozilla has adopted for FF 4.0 (and that Chrome has had for ages) makes upgrade cycles, for all practical purposes, negligible.

Chrome 6.0 was released on September 2. Since then, Chrome 5.0's market share has dropped to nearly 0%, with Chrome 6.0 picking up all of 5.0's share while also absorbing a good amount of IE's share.

If Microsoft instituted an auto-upgrade path for IE and released updates with more regularity, this would slowly become a thing of the past.

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Re:IE 8 is the new IE 6 by sukuriant on Monday October 11, 2010 @09:41PM (#1781988)
This presupposes that a corporation doesn't turn this auto-upgrade feature off. Some companies like to have cut-throat control over their employees computers, despite known security benefits from the alternatives. "It's working now, so it's safer than upgrading and breaking our other stuff."
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Re:IE 8 is the new IE 6 by jaspero on Monday October 11, 2010 @08:38PM (#1781841)
I haven't tried it but can you upgrade those browsers without administrative rights? I am assuming you can't do it on corporate settings.
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Re:IE 8 is the new IE 6 by nuclear_eclipse on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @09:24AM (#1783232)
On Windows, if the user installs Chrome, it's installed into the user's home directory (local application data or something). This means the user does not need admin rights to either install or upgrade Chrome.
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Re:IE 8 is the new IE 6 by sid0 on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @11:33AM (#1783737)
There are several ways to update programs on Windows without needing admin rights:

- You could do it as Chrome does and have a per-user install. I don't think Mozilla wants to do this.

- You could install a service or a scheduled task to do the work for you.

- MSI updates can be installed without admin rights if they're Authenticode signed, and Mozilla does have a valid Authenticode digital certificate.

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Re:IE 8 is the new IE 6 by zooey on Monday October 11, 2010 @08:38PM (#1781840)
In Enterprise Company there is no such thing as "Auto Upgrade"
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Re:IE 8 is the new IE 6 by barake on Monday October 11, 2010 @08:44PM (#1781853)
Over half our Firefox traffic is still pre-3.6. Not IE6 bad, but it lacks CSS gradients and such.
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Re:IE 8 is the new IE 6 by tedunangst on Tuesday October 12, 2010 @12:22AM (#1782294)
Around the time Firefox 3.0 came out, I dealt with a customer complaint that our web app was really slow. Their browser? Mozilla 1.7. No, not Firefox; Mozilla.
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