Mastodon Is Better Than Twitter: Elevator Pitch

Re:Mastodon Is Better Than Twitter: Elevator Pitch by komali2 on Saturday August 18, 2018 @03:41PM (#17790210)

>The big social media sites are in the process of evicting everyone who doesn't 100% agree with them.

I think this is untrue. I think social media sites are removing people at .1% outlier belief system that most people deem disgusting enough to warrant taking action to not have associated with their brand.

Your "100%" implies that everyone on say Facebook has to have the same belief system, when that obviously isn't true. You can state many belief system on Facebook, except hateful ones that target swaths of people.

This won't create a Myspace situation, it'll create a 8chan/voat situation.

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Re:Mastodon Is Better Than Twitter: Elevator Pitch by cabalamat on Saturday August 18, 2018 @09:30PM (#17791994)

> I think social media sites are removing people at .1% outlier belief system that most people deem disgusting enough to warrant taking action to not have associated with their brand.

I don't think that's true. Tommy Robinson's beliefs about Muslims are held by a good deal more than 0.1% of the UK population, yet he was banned from Twitter.

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Re:Mastodon Is Better Than Twitter: Elevator Pitch by zimpenfish on Sunday August 19, 2018 @02:55AM (#17792972)

> Tommy Robinson's beliefs about Muslims are held by a good deal more than 0.1% of the UK population

Do you have a source for that number?

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Re:Mastodon Is Better Than Twitter: Elevator Pitch by cabalamat on Sunday August 19, 2018 @08:24AM (#17794008)

My main reason for that claim is simply that I live in Britain -- anyone who has done so for a significant amount of time would know that sentiment against Muslims is is a lot more widespread than 0.1% of the population, so I don't think the claim needs defending, any more than the claim "people like sex and money" does.

But I had a look at specific opinion poll results and this one https://yougov.co.uk/opi/browse/Tommy_Robinson suggests that 17.4% of people see Tommy Robinson favourably.

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Re:Mastodon Is Better Than Twitter: Elevator Pitch by zimpenfish on Sunday August 19, 2018 @03:42PM (#17795836)

> My main reason for that claim is simply that I live in Britain

Me too, currently coming up to 50 years.

> https://yougov.co.uk/opi/browse/Tommy_Robinson

That's favourability of Mr Robinson, not his beliefs though.

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Re:Mastodon Is Better Than Twitter: Elevator Pitch by cabalamat on Monday August 20, 2018 @08:17PM (#17805530)

> That's favourability of Mr Robinson, not his beliefs though.

True, but 17.4% is a much larger number than 0.1%

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Re:Mastodon Is Better Than Twitter: Elevator Pitch by komali2 on Sunday August 19, 2018 @02:42PM (#17795586)

Thanks for finding numbers, but I worry about this one confirming bias against Muslims. For example, one could assume that a 60% approval rate among Republicans of Trump means that 60% of Republicans don't like Muslims, but oftentimes in conversations in my home town in Texas I'll hear something like "oh, he's definitely a jerk about the Muslim thing" or "even if he's racist, he's at least doing something about the economy." So I hesitate to assume that "support" means "wholly support."

In any case, I feel this is splitting hairs over numbers. If 30% of the UK hated Muslims, Facebook still wouldn't be requiring "100% silicon valley values" to use the platform. You just can't post racist stuff on it. I.e. those racists have other aspects of their worldview they'd be welcome to bring to the table.

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Re:Mastodon Is Better Than Twitter: Elevator Pitch by cabalamat on Monday August 20, 2018 @08:16PM (#17805528)

I suspect the number who hate Muslims is small, maybe 1-5% of the population. The number who have misgivings about the behaviour of some Muslims is clearly a lot higher.

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