COMPASS. Odd things like 60 bit words and 6 bit characters.

I remember that.

"Still in all, every night we does the tell, so that we 'member who we was and where we came from..."

DOB on your resume isn't illegal, it's just illegal for the company to discriminate based on it.

> DOBs are illegal

And yet recruiters frequently request them up top on resumes.

Not in the USA.

recruiters where?

Germany. Photos and birthdays are often on resumes. They're not required (or really even legal to require) but they're so common that it's expected.

In Europe, anyway.

Ah, yeah, this is an American resume though (it's illegal in Canada too fwiw).

Really?

It's quite common in Europe and Asia

Ya, along with a picture and your gender in Asia.

Same in Europe.

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DOB was required on my international CV for Southeast Asia and Europe up until I last needed one in 2009.

I didn't realise the word "cyber" had been around that long... As much as I (have to) use the word, I didn't know it's background.

Its etymology, as per wikipedia

> Cyber- is derived from "cybernetic," which comes from the Greek word κυβερνητικός meaning skilled in steering or governing

You might notice it's the same word from which 'Kubernetes' comes from, though Kubernetes is a more legitimate sounding word without the (modern) palatalization of C.

> though Kubernetes is a more legitimate sounding word

Weird, I feel the opposite way. To me "kubernetes" feels like someone couldn't come up with a name, so they obscured an existing word and hoped no one would notice. It's like calling "tumblr" "a more legitimate-sounding word than 'tumbler'". Why transliterate Greek the normal way when you can do it your own, less accurate way?

> without the (modern) palatalization of C

Huh? You could describe the change in Italian as palatalization; [s] is not a palatal sound at all, and the change in question took place many hundreds of years ago. Modern?

And cognate to "govern".

1948, Norbert Wiener, Cybernetics; or, Control and communication in the animal and the machine.

https://www.worldcat.org/title/cybernetics-or-control-and-co...

Incidentally, pronounced "cyber-NEET-iks", originally.

And explicitly intended to apply to biological and social systems. Also: The human use of human beings : cybernetics and society (1954).

https://www.worldcat.org/title/human-use-of-human-beings-cyb...

date of birth is illegal? Probably one of the more irrelevant things, as it is easily deductible from the rest of the entries.

Date of birth, either by request from employer or voluntarily given by employee, is not illegal. However, anyone with half a brain won't use it since that's just asking for a discrimination lawsuit since there is no more plausible deniability.

Alas, it is trivial for employers to guess a candidate's age with resonable accuracy, as most people have their education timeline in their resume.

I'd think most people who are worried about age discrimination would drop their matriculation year from their resume.

Yep this and I’ve been told by my Caucasian friends that they can’t tell the age of Black men if we are clean shaven and shave our hair off to cut the gray and re ending hairline. Most guess that I am at most in my early 30s - not my mid 40s.

I always go completely clean shaven with a bald head when I interview.

Not always. Folks can obtain a degree later in life to throw off the ageism detector.

Yes. But you usually don't do that to trigger an aegism detector. Also, if you include previous work experiences (with dates obviously) one can still determine how old you are.

Nevertheless, once you go there in person for your interview, people will notice anyway.

I only include my last 10 years of experience and don’t include the year I graduated. Not only to reduce the chance of ageism, but my experience with Perl, VB6, MFC, DCOM, etc. is not relevant.

If applying in a market with rampant ageism why not just leave specific dates off altogether. Just list degrees received and durations of employment.

oh yeah and how do you make up for the years of experience then? fake jobs entries?

I'm 36. If I get a degree in a new field and work 15 years, I'll be 55, but my resume will say I have a Bachelor's degree with 15 years of experience.

I picked up my BCE at 36. Of course now that I am 58, even 44 is getting to the outer edge for those who would discriminate.

Or just don’t include more than a year or two of job history prior to the degree.

Imagine his career lasts just as long, he just starts at his 40s

Requesting Years of experience can also be considered discrimination

FFS, It's not illegal discrimination.

In the USA discrimination is 100% legal if 1) the group being discriminated against is not specifically defined as a protected group under law OR 2) it's a legitimate job requirement.

Requiring programmers to know how to program also discriminates against non-programmers but non-programmers aren't a protected group.

Requiring a stocker to be able to lift 30 pounds discriminates against the disabled. The disabled are a protected group, but it's a legitimate job requirement for a stocker to be able to move the stock around.

If you're hiring for a senior engineer it's not illegal discrimination because 1) it's a legitimate job requirement and 2) young people are not a protected group under law (only people over 40 are)

Out of my own personal curiosity. How does the protection for people over 40 work?

in which world? because every job posting I have ever seen requires years of doing x or y.

Leave the date off your degree. Leave out experience prior to date X, or leave dates off ancient history experience entries.

Or use a “functional” style resume.

It is a fig leaf intended to discourage age discrimination.