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Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by emilsedgh on Friday August 17, 2018 @12:49AM (#17780356)
Gmail and Inbox both hang for me on my Chrome on Linux with almost no load.

It's funny how tides turn. Initially Gmail was the king of performance.

Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by beefhash on Friday August 17, 2018 @12:59AM (#17780388)
I need 27 seconds on Firefox 52.9 ESR (Debian) and about 20,287 kbyte of data transferred in 148 requests just to reach an idle GMail tab.

What is all this stuff even doing?

Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by codedokode on Friday August 17, 2018 @01:09AM (#17780420)
I usually append /h/ to the URL (/mail/h/) and get a HTML version. It can work even without JS and it has classic design with small rows that works well on my small screen. No Material Design and no huge elements with large offsets.
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by bevel on Friday August 17, 2018 @01:34AM (#17780506)
I hate material design. I don't want more vacant space, I want density.

Ive always loved Japanese website layouts. Content is beauty.

Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by vesinisa on Friday August 17, 2018 @03:28AM (#17780950)
I hope you have noticed that in GMail you can swtich between different "density" modes. In your Inbox, click on the cogwheel on the right-hand top corner and select the second option "Display density". The "Compact" setting is actually rather dense. Although, it mostly affects the density of rows (conversations) in your inbox and does not scale e.g. the search box input field above.
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by audiolion on Friday August 17, 2018 @01:48AM (#17780559)
do you have any examples or resources on Japanese style web design?
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by themodelplumber on Friday August 17, 2018 @02:13AM (#17780633)
It's everywhere. Simple example: Compare the differences--and even the subtleties--in information density between yahoo.co.jp and Yahoo.com.
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by anonytrary on Friday August 17, 2018 @02:22AM (#17780673)
Oh wow that is a stark contrast. yahoo.co.uk, yahoo.co.in, yahoo.co.id, etc. are all incredibly low-density as well. I have always loved the Japanese aesthetic, I wonder if any other cultures have a similar preference for websites.
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by SmellyGeekBoy on Friday August 17, 2018 @05:41AM (#17781499)
Only downside being that it's common to see people walking around in Japan with their phone about a foot in front of their face.
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by themodelplumber on Friday August 17, 2018 @06:17PM (#17785836)
Sounds like me. On the couch or walking around I'm at 10-12 inches away. I wonder--do people who don't prefer high information density hold their devices farther away?
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by Accacin on Friday August 17, 2018 @10:01AM (#17782868)
It's not just Japanese, Chinese also. An article not long ago theorized some reasoning behind it: https://randomwire.com/why-japanese-web-design-is-so-differe...
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by DoctorOetker on Friday August 17, 2018 @01:49AM (#17780561)
I just tried that, and noticed promotions in the inbox, the non-HTML version separated the "primary" from the "promotions". Are they merging them to keep HTML version annoying?
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by manigandham on Friday August 17, 2018 @02:07AM (#17780613)
The HTML version is the legacy UI from a few generations ago, before features like inbox categories were implemented.
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by DoctorOetker on Friday August 17, 2018 @02:11AM (#17780627)
I always assumed the behaviour and categorization was in their backend. I think its weird that the view (HTML vs javascript) is not decoupled from the model?
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by codedokode on Friday August 17, 2018 @02:22AM (#17780669)
While that is possible it would make no sense. Why spend time refactoring code to improve a legacy UI for old browsers almost nobody is using? Legacy UI doesn't know anything about categorization because it was added later.

Actually Gmail's approach is sane. They just keep old UI working as it used to many years ago although the backend could have changed completely.

Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by aidos on Friday August 17, 2018 @02:22AM (#17780670)
Maybe the categorisation is metadata against each email. Maybe even so they could use it without breaking the old legacy systems.
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by y4mi on Friday August 17, 2018 @02:24AM (#17780682)
what exactly are they supposed to do in the backend?

they probably have an api in which you can limit the results by category. As the old interface doesn't have any limiter implemented, they're getting all the results back.

you can also disable categories in the newer interface and the effect would be the same (everything in the inbox)

Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by emilsedgh on Friday August 17, 2018 @03:12AM (#17780886)
Now this is what I call a sane UI!
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by blt on Friday August 17, 2018 @01:36AM (#17780517)
this does not work for me. when I type "gmail.com" it redirects to:

    https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox
where should I put the /h/?
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by mathrawka on Friday August 17, 2018 @01:41AM (#17780533)

    https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by codedokode on Friday August 17, 2018 @02:14AM (#17780637)
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by brewrwe on Friday August 17, 2018 @01:09AM (#17780418)
I ended up going to Thunderbird for my main email addresses (work & personal), with Rainmail for quasi-disposable addresses on my various domains. Works much better than Gmail did towards the end of my years using Gmail.
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by luc4sdreyer on Friday August 17, 2018 @02:31AM (#17780710)
I have to use Thunderbird for work and I wish it was 1% as good as Gmail. The search sucks, it's slow to receive mail, it crashes quite often. Either your Gmail is profoundly broken or you have a magic Thunderbird. In case the latter is true: do you have any tips to optimise Thunderbird?
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by Grimm665 on Friday August 17, 2018 @10:39AM (#17783107)
Have been running Thunderbird for G-Apps based work email for over a year (Fedora 26,27). Using the Provider for Google Calendar extension works well for integrating calendar into Thunderbird.

Other than fighting with the calendar occasionally (sometimes needing to force a manual sync to see coworkers' events), Gmail in Thunderbird has been pretty smooth. I have not noticed slow search, slow mail receipt, or application crashes. In fact, the search is often too good, in that after running it it matches hundreds of more emails than I usually expect. I usually stick with the quick filter which is a bit less flexible, but generally returns more useful results.

Another advantage, on Linux at least, is that if you copy your ~/.thunderbird folder to another machine, all accounts, GUI layouts, settings, search results, tabs, etc move over flawlessly. I think you just have to re-sign in for Google accounts on the new machine and you are good to go.

Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by brewrwe on Wednesday August 22, 2018 @04:41AM (#17817278)
I would check that Google isn't ratelimiting you, and I would also check that your hard drive/SSD and RAM aren't dying. I've experienced issues like what you describe, but the first time was caused by a dying hard disk, and the 2nd by Google limiting the number of IMAP connections to a hilariously low number.
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by znpy on Friday August 17, 2018 @05:30PM (#17785664)
Thunderbird is quite a piece of crap. Apart from the core, everything else is written in javascript and thus it is a single-core web application.

I have decided to just leave it be, and let it hog my computer, because it interface decently with google calendar.

That being said, I can definitely vouch for clients like Claws Mail (a bit ugly, but does its job) and Evolution (super fast, but it's written in C#/Mono)

Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by vesak on Friday August 17, 2018 @02:38AM (#17780732)
Mining your personal data for ad revenue. Or was this a trick question?
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by shriphani on Friday August 17, 2018 @01:13AM (#17780434)
yeah inbox basically causes chrome to beachball on OS X. They control the browser, the webapp and have still managed to put together an experience like this.
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by cma on Friday August 17, 2018 @01:19AM (#17780452)
And their latest interface broke middle-click to open an email in a new tab. One the major advantage of using Gmail in a browser vs in the app, gone. Oddly ctrl-click still works.
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by another-cuppa on Friday August 17, 2018 @05:38AM (#17781487)
> Initially Gmail was the king of performance.

When, and compared to what? I'm pretty sure it was never faster than Thunderbird let alone something like Mutt.

Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by znpy on Friday August 17, 2018 @05:31PM (#17785666)
When it was just release, compared to things like yahoo mail and hotmail.
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by andreareina on Friday August 17, 2018 @04:23AM (#17781159)
I just gave up on running Gmail at all. Switched to Thunderbird and don't miss Gmail at all.
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by Spooky23 on Friday August 17, 2018 @01:38AM (#17780523)
Try using Outlook. Gmail is a Ferrari in comparison.
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by fetbaffe on Friday August 17, 2018 @04:10AM (#17781114)
Outlook.com was super snappy when it arrived, today is super slow. "Modern" web development always ends up here.
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by Spooky23 on Friday August 17, 2018 @07:11AM (#17781881)
Oh I wasn’t even going there.

Outlook the Windows app deserves to be the most awful app ever, but Skype for Business worked harder!

Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by mmansoor78 on Friday August 17, 2018 @03:27AM (#17780948)
I have ditched Inbox by Google and went back to Gmail by Google.
Re:24-core CPU and I can’t type an email by yread on Friday August 17, 2018 @03:35AM (#17780979)
It also eats battery ridiculously fast