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Re:Bullshit-sensitivity predicts prosocial behavior by mcphage on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @11:15AM (#17766649)
> The paranoiac's pain is real, even if the cause is imaginary.

That's exactly the point of the sentence.

Re:Bullshit-sensitivity predicts prosocial behavior by foldr on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @12:07PM (#17767125)
No, the sentence talks about imaginary pain, not real pain with imaginary causes.
Re:Bullshit-sensitivity predicts prosocial behavior by mcphage on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @02:33PM (#17768509)
> the sentence talks about imaginary pain

It does. But read what the sentence says about "imaginary pain"—that it still hurts. That feeling of hurt is pain. So the sentence is saying that "imaginary pain" is just "pain". So pain that you might think is imaginary, is actually real.

Re:Bullshit-sensitivity predicts prosocial behavior by foldr on Thursday August 16, 2018 @04:35AM (#17772980)
Or, equally, pain that you might think is real is actually imaginary. (If the two terms are equivalent, substitution should work in either direction.) Seems obviously false to me.
Re:Bullshit-sensitivity predicts prosocial behavior by Dylan16807 on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @09:03PM (#17771093)
> No, the sentence talks about imaginary pain, not real pain with imaginary causes.

That's exactly what you're getting wrong. "Imaginary pain" does not mean "imagining a situation where imaginary-you is in pain". It means pain with imaginary causes that applies to the real you.

Re:Bullshit-sensitivity predicts prosocial behavior by foldr on Thursday August 16, 2018 @04:31AM (#17772948)
That's not a possible meaning of "imaginary pain" in my dialect of English.
Re:Bullshit-sensitivity predicts prosocial behavior by YuriNiyazov on Thursday August 16, 2018 @10:50AM (#17775076)
Seems like the sentence might just be a poor translation from Swedish.
Re:Bullshit-sensitivity predicts prosocial behavior by SamBam on Wednesday August 15, 2018 @01:21PM (#17767846)
But pain is subjective by definition. What does "imaginary pain" mean? The answer can only include some notion of "cause."
Re:Bullshit-sensitivity predicts prosocial behavior by foldr on Thursday August 16, 2018 @04:33AM (#17772962)
Imaginary pain is pain in your imagination, just like an imaginary car is a car in your imagination. If you stub your toe, you are really in pain and not just imagining it. If you imagine stubbing your toe, you are only in imaginary pain (assuming that you imagine it to be painful).
Re:Bullshit-sensitivity predicts prosocial behavior by SamBam on Wednesday August 29, 2018 @11:47AM (#17869128)
Precisely. You brought up cause (stubbing your toe). You're agreeing with me.