Well, if China lets them.
the same law, the same government, 0 tariff between provinces, and the same language,
all of these properties lead to one thing. extremely low cost of products which is Competitiveness.
The statement they are making is “we don’t care about oppressive governments and ethics. As long as we’re churning out billion dollar unicorns, we’ll invest in anything”.
I have a lot of respect for China, I also know China may be the most likely to use AI against their citizens to suppress them. Do YC funded companies really want to enable that?
What does YC really stand for?
Expecting capitalists (the economic class, not the ideological faction) to put human rights over returns on capital is, if not silly, at least naively optimistic.
Maybe that's naive. It's still the right thing to do. No amount of money can shift what's right and wrong.
I don't think our civilization has suffered enough to really understand that. The current state of the environment is a good example.
> it’s quite rude
> we developed without china’s input
It is hard to argue that detaining 1 million people for their beliefs[0] and then torturing them[1] is justifiable by cultural relativism. Or massacring people for that matter[2]. At that point you could argue for any atrocity.
It’s not rude it’s basic humanity. It’s not just completely reasonable to ask a government in charge of more than a billion people to please exercise basic humane standards, it’s morally atrocious to suggest otherwise. The Chinese government deserves all they criticism they get for what they have done and continue to do, and it’s arguable that we in the west deserve criticism for enabling them.
[0] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-45147972
[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/former-inm...
[2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of...
I don't think the Chinese people approve of many of the things their government does. Though censorship makes dissent harder to "prove"
Plenty of western countries are involved in censorship on a smaller scale but that's not considered evil and suppressing the true views of the public.
One easy example being mega projects, here in the west we seem to wax poetic constantly about returning to the good old days where a nation could undertake mega-projects and yet china just keeps doing them faster than we can keep track.
I'm sure many westerners and chinese both want to see these things happen and yet they are doing it and we aren't? Is that some proof that we are suppressed citizens? Or maybe its a bit more nuanced.
Because the government doesn't block you from saying those things. It's concerning to me that you don't appear to know what the definition of 'oppression' or 'dictatorship' is.
>One easy example being mega projects, here in the west we seem to wax poetic constantly about returning to the good old days where a nation could undertake mega-projects and yet china just keeps doing them faster than we can keep track.
When you throw enough suffering and death at a project, you can build quickly. Nobody with a brain is suggesting we do projects the same way we did the hoover dam that resulted in silicosis.
That's because there's an actual definition of dictatorship. China is a dictatorship, the US is not.
> Plenty of western countries are involved in censorship on a smaller scale but that's not considered evil and suppressing the true views of the public.
Yes it is.
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights[1] was signed by China and Dr. Peng-chun Chang (who was Chinese) took part in its drafting[2].
Which part of it do you think China doesn't officially agree with?
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human...
[2] http://www.un.org/en/sections/universal-declaration/drafters...