Re:U.S. Attorney Moves to Dismiss Murder-For-Hire Charges Ag...
by humantiy on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @02:59PM
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I don't think this analogy works with this scenario. The person selling the gun to a felon is breaking the law but "causing death" would depend on if they knew that was the persons intent. Sort of like if you buy a gun legally and say to the person selling you the gun I plan on killing someone with it, they will refuse to sell it to you and will report you to the police.
I don't think most people intend or want their customers ODing on their product, but it understandably will happen with some given the power of the addiction.
Even still I think where this thread is going is reaching in some respects. Sure people died from the drugs that were sold on the silk road, but from my understanding they wern't sold by Ross directly. Sure it he was getting a profit for the use of the silk road basically being the ebay for illegal stuff, but that to me seems more like organized crime and being a kingpin of sorts.
Re:U.S. Attorney Moves to Dismiss Murder-For-Hire Charges Ag...
by beaner on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @12:25PM
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You're talking about selling things that enable violent crimes against others, while the person you're responding to is taking about selling benign things with which one can only harm oneself. They seem categorically different.
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by s73v3r_ on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @01:20PM
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I flat out do not by that "can only harm oneself" argument. The effects of addiction on those close to the addict are quite well documented.
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by bdcravens on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @12:49PM
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I sell a gun to someone who has expressed to me interest in self harm. They commit suicide. Did I "cause death"?
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by michaelmrose on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @01:48PM
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You would be complicit fault is infinitely divisible.
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by gnode on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @03:04PM
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Does fault need to divide, or can it apply severally?
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by beaner on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @09:37PM
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The distinction is tools of force vs other.
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by dylan604 on Tuesday August 14, 2018 @03:20PM
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If you knowingly sold a weapon to a felon that is not allowed to posses said weapon, then I would suggest you should be charged with aiding and abetting or even accessory after the fact. While not accusing of "causing death", a punishment fitting the crime should be expected.
Presumably illegal substances are illegal in part based on risk, so even participating in the transaction you're assuming that risk.