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Re:Do “sin taxes” work? by manicdee on Sunday August 12, 2018 @06:08PM (#17746700)
They cost more money per year to keep alive while they're dying, and they contribute less to the economy (because they die early). The indirect costs of their mortality are far greater than the direct savings.
Re:Do “sin taxes” work? by onemoresoop on Monday August 13, 2018 @12:16PM (#17751197)
They dont get pensions if they die early hence contribute more by not collecting
Re:Do “sin taxes” work? by refurb on Sunday August 12, 2018 @08:22PM (#17747247)
Why would they cost more per year when dying? Lung cancer can be pretty swift versus other diseases like Alzheimer’s.
Re:Do “sin taxes” work? by IMTDb on Monday August 13, 2018 @05:54AM (#17749047)
Speaking from europe where healthcare is basically free.

Medical care for these patients is extremely expensive. Each surgery costs around 50 to 60 thousand euro and it's not uncommon to get 2 or 3 of those before dying. Add to that the frequent visits to the doctor's office, the oxygen tanks if needed, the medications, etc. The other option would be to just "let them die" but that's not what we decided to do as a society.

The trend is that we are now able to keep them alive slightly longer, ( at a higher cost) and that they start developing symptoms slightly later thus reducing the potential "benefit" for society.

Re:Do “sin taxes” work? by refurb on Monday August 13, 2018 @02:52PM (#17752584)
Alzheimer’s can mean providing 24/7 care for a decade.

Not sure it’s cheaper than lung cancer.

Re:Do “sin taxes” work? by sytse on Sunday August 12, 2018 @08:49PM (#17747349)
Apart from health care pending it is good to also take into account pension savings https://www.cbsnews.com/news/philip-morris-admits-terrible-m...
Re:Do “sin taxes” work? by flukus on Sunday August 12, 2018 @08:12PM (#17747207)
> and they contribute less to the economy (because they die early)

The typically don't start to die in significant numbers until they're getting up to retirement age, they're an economic burden by that point.

Re:Do “sin taxes” work? by refurb on Sunday August 12, 2018 @08:23PM (#17747251)
Indeed. They also die early which means less social security to pay out.