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Re:Ask HN: How's the Paris startup scene? by baud147258 on Friday August 10, 2018 @11:41AM (#17734331)
Man, I should really try to get that 13k € raise out of my employer! Just to point that average does not mean that every tech worker get that. And I'd bet that in Paris 56K$ is either very senior pay grade or management.

You can also add, among the benefits, the good network of public transport (even if some lines are overloaded).

Re:Ask HN: How's the Paris startup scene? by Voloskaya on Friday August 10, 2018 @11:45AM (#17734374)
> Just to point that average does not mean that every tech worker get that.

Well, no. That's the point of having an average.

Would be good to have stats for median salary as well

Re:Ask HN: How's the Paris startup scene? by Jacqued on Friday August 10, 2018 @12:05PM (#17734555)
In my experience, €50k is pretty much middle-of-the road for software developers. That's what I had after ~2 years experience. Beginners get 40k out of college.

Freelancing is also a good option, with daily rates ~400-700€ depending on experience, you can make a much better living than a regular employee.

Re:Ask HN: How's the Paris startup scene? by vladvasiliu on Friday August 10, 2018 @12:43PM (#17734859)
Bear in mind that that would be the rate charged to the client. In France you'll have to actually have a company of some sort and then you'll get some form of salary (either dividends or actual salary).

The ballpark for your actual cash in hand, assuming no other costs for the company, would be whatever you charge divided by two (social security isn't actually free).

Of course, some things can be expensed, which is a huge advantage, for example a company car or motorbike, a laptop, etc). But it's not entirely free if you use them on your personal time, theoretically you have to pay income tax on some of the object's value.

So the numbers are, considering 220 working days a year (which is probably optimistic, because you have to budget some days to find and develop new leads, plus vacation, sick days, etc):

400 € / day = 88 000 / year => 44-45 000 after tax

Another thing to bear in mind is landlords and banks have a strong preference to rent / lend to people with a stable, long-term contract (CDI). As a freelancer, especially in the beginning, you'll probably encounter quite a few of them who won't want to do business with you. Plus, being a foreigner won't help.

Source: I'm doing the freelance thing.